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Worth writing to Suella Braverman perhaps…?
Wonker!I like your thinking!
The young PC was ok but a bit green. He asked if the ramps were secured properly or if they could fall out? I explained that they were held in and the lynch pin stopped the handle lifting and coming out. Was just waiting for him to try it for himself and nip his finger……..alas, he was more focused on typing on his tablet thing
Hamzan Yousef this is ScotlandWorth writing to Suella Braverman perhaps…?
I’m using one now. I am trying to learn and not that much hassle either.I bought a net on Ebay. Someone was cutting pieces from condemned construction site safety nets and advertising them as cargo nets. Wasn't expensive and its been useful
Points are the annoying thing. That could be the outcome but have a bit of time to consider.You aren't going to win. Pay the money and consider it a lesson learned.
Points are the annoying thing. That could be the outcome but have a bit of time to consider.
just wondering if they will bother to prosecute if I just ignore……
You aren't going to win. Pay the money and consider it a lesson learned.
Sadly I think this is the truth.
I could half understand them offering you the chance to go on a “load awareness course” if such a thing existed. Personally I think it would be a great idea if such courses were offered FOC by the government and people attended them every 5 years or so. Would do far more for safety than dishing out fixed penalty notices.
Points are just a threat. The cost of a prosecution has to be subjected to some Regulations or a Test by the Prosecutor. I cant see that they will bother. Tell them you get DLA for serious mental health disorders. They will then send you £100.Points are the annoying thing. That could be the outcome but have a bit of time to consider.
just wondering if they will bother to prosecute if I just ignore……
Cheers for all the replies so far.
General consensus seems to be that plod are being over zealous in this case. I need to try find info on load level and trailer sides. Wonder if there is a difference between goods operators and private individuals as to the rules?
I find it interesting that they say “alleged contravention” instead of just simply contravention. Also “or the manner in which said load was secured, was likely to cause danger of injury to any person there“ why wouldn’t they write “would” cause danger or injury…….
sounds like it’s open to be challenged
He took a puckle photos so I’m sure they will have them.Can you ask them for the evidence of the “alleged contravention” to jog your memory on what they’re referring to? See if they have actually got anything.
Problem is there are rules which require a load to be secured sideways and from tipping out. If your trailer overturned then the load would not be secure. I think this is the issue you have.Cheers for all the replies so far.
General consensus seems to be that plod are being over zealous in this case. I need to try find info on load level and trailer sides. Wonder if there is a difference between goods operators and private individuals as to the rules?
I find it interesting that they say “alleged contravention” instead of just simply contravention. Also “or the manner in which said load was secured, was likely to cause danger of injury to any person there“ why wouldn’t they write “would” cause danger or injury…….
sounds like it’s open to be challenged
That is the probably the caseAlleged is because it hasn’t been proven….yet. They would rather you admitted it than they had to take you to court and find you guilty. That costs them time and money. It would also cost you plenty too.
The system is skewed in their favour so the individual cannot seek justice without spending a fortune. The threat of that cost makes people cave in and just pay up.
Yeah! They must have reliable evidence. Their witness must swear on Oath that you actually committed an offense.Can you ask them for the evidence of the “alleged contravention” to jog your memory on what they’re referring to? See if they have actually got anything.
If you want yhe cheapest option, just pay up and take the points, oh and inform your insurance company about the points,He took a puckle photos so I’m sure they will have them.
I did wonder if I should ask to see the report
I think it is just under normal circumstances and overturning wouldn’t be normal. The tarp and 2 ratchets wouldn't have kept any logs in if it couped over.Problem is there are rules which require a load to be secured sideways and from tipping out. If your trailer overturned then the load would not be secure. I think this is the issue you have.