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- Bury St Edmunds
Has anyone come across a flail mower attachment for a telehandler? Does such a thing exist?
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Flail mower for Telehandler?
- Thread starter marcot
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I've seen saws but not flail.
Thanks no you may struggle to get enough power from a hydraulic pump for say a 2 m flail?
Thanks no you may struggle to get enough power from a hydraulic pump for say a 2 m flail?
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
How much hydraulic flow have you got from 3rd/4th service? That will be the limiting factor.
You can get flails with a variable swash hydraulic motor, but basically they still need adequate flow to make enough power. We've got a 105cm Seppi on a 360 that runs quite happily with 70 lpm off hammer circuit, however a wider unit (2 to 2.5m) to suit a telehandler will need a lot more power and flow to munch!
On (non-PTO) "wheeled" machines a good candidate is something like a (tracked) skiddie - bit narrower, good all terrain ability and importantly can be fitted with high-flow auxiliary hydraulics.
You can get flails with a variable swash hydraulic motor, but basically they still need adequate flow to make enough power. We've got a 105cm Seppi on a 360 that runs quite happily with 70 lpm off hammer circuit, however a wider unit (2 to 2.5m) to suit a telehandler will need a lot more power and flow to munch!
On (non-PTO) "wheeled" machines a good candidate is something like a (tracked) skiddie - bit narrower, good all terrain ability and importantly can be fitted with high-flow auxiliary hydraulics.
Courier
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- M62 - M1 - M18 triangle
Maybe a self-powered unit as towed behind an ATV would meet your needs ? [emoji3]
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Thanks for the feedback ..... do you have any idea what sort of oil flow there is to the auxiliary circuit on a JCB loadall?
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
That's a good thought .....need to clear areas of bramble and thorns underneath woodland and places that are pretty inaccessible for a tractor. Some of the brambles are tractor high so might be a bit much for an ATV machine?Maybe a self-powered unit as towed behind an ATV would meet your needs ?
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
I have a similar situation. I was wondering about a front links mounted mulcher, the tractor I have with front links doesn't have a front pto though
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
It will be a lot cheaper to get a front PTO fitted (and more flexible) than it will be to buy a large hydro powered flail and the get it enough oil to run successfully.I have a similar situation. I was wondering about a front links mounted mulcher, the tractor I have with front links doesn't have a front pto though
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Just get someone in with front links/PTO on tractor and a 2.8m wide front flail. If it's inaccessible for a tractor it would be no better with a handler surely. If it's really inaccessible a tracked machine either a skiddie or 360 is the job.
Other option is a bobcat with muncher. Had one in on tracks, did a good job up to about 2-3 inch
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Yeah a wide enough flail to match the track width of a handler (e.g. around 2.5 to 2.8m) cutting brambles and head-height general crap you'd easily want 100hp+ to run that flail...and I'm being conservative.
Even at a conservative 100hp power the oil required @ 220 bar is something like 226 litre/min. Way more than I reckon the OP could get out of an auxiliary service.
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Yes a skiddie is a much better idea, especially if it's inaccessible terrain, low branches etc. They are low and narrow and turn on a dime.
An 80hp skiddie with high- flow auxiliary hydraulics should deliver about 60hp out of the oil circuit enough for a 6ft wide flail to cover the track width.
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
Do skidsteers have much higher auxiliary flow than telehandlers?
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
My skidsteer will run 126 lpm @ 210 bar (high-flow auxiliary rather than the standard).
The other consideration is that the skiddie is narrower, hence a smaller flail needed and less power needed than a wider handler would need.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
There are a lot of places where the tree branches are lower than a tractor cab and with front linkage you wouldn't be able to reach 7m under a tree canopy as ou potentially could with a telehandler. ....
Plus on the really big stuff you could lower a flail down gradually from height...
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Ok thanks for that. Thats probably why I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet.
Will have to think about the Bobcat route.....
We are probably having a remote control JCB tracked flail to do some steep banks. Probably work too for you needs?
Pheasant Surprise
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- Location
- Woodbridge, Suffolk
Some ideas for you to consider...
1. PTO flail on alpine tractor. Maybe chat to Riko or Kirkland UK
2. Hire an operator with a Robocut
3. Hydro flail on a chunky skiddie
4. PTO-type 48-60" flail on out front commercial mower
5. Hydro flail on a 360
1. PTO flail on alpine tractor. Maybe chat to Riko or Kirkland UK
2. Hire an operator with a Robocut
3. Hydro flail on a chunky skiddie
4. PTO-type 48-60" flail on out front commercial mower
5. Hydro flail on a 360
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exmoor dave
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- Location
- exmoor, uk
Does anyone know what sort of money we're looking at to hire a tracked skiddy and mulcher (not a flail topper, a proper mulcher for big stuff) for a week self drive?