And dumped milk?
Fluke
- Thread starter supercow
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it's not over
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Dilution is the solution to pollution
I’ve just done it and positive. However cows flying next step phone vet for a chat.
supercow
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Hey westie, no I didn’t at 6£ a cow I thought it was too expensive. Cows looking well I’m just going to fluke them at dry off. Was going to cost over 1200 to test through cis and I was going to fluke them at drying off anything. Milk price has been reasonable but there’s still not that kind of money to be flying about willy nilly!
Read this thread a while back, have had fluke in the sheep last year for the first time ever, got me thinking about the cows so did a bulk test. Cost £8 according to the vet (yet to see the bill tho!)
We were all clear, cows been grazing herbal let's anyone know if chicory is effective against fluke, know it slows worms up.
Sheep haven't had any chicory.
We were all clear, cows been grazing herbal let's anyone know if chicory is effective against fluke, know it slows worms up.
Sheep haven't had any chicory.
foxbox
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We've had threads like this before so it's repeating old posts but mixing and dosing through the feeder wagon runs a huge risk of resistance building up in the future. "yeah but it works for me", "it's much easier", "never seen a problem in my cows" etc etc is all well and good but when these products are gone that'll be it, there's nothing new coming unfortunately. The products aren't licenced to be administered in this way (even the in-feed ones) and if you've already got fluke on the farm why would you risk compounding the problem by dosing so badly?
More info for product choice (including withdrawals) on the COWS website which may be useful. And no, restricting intakes won't guarantee accurate doses and mixing it in water troughs won't guarantee accurate doses either. The products aren't licensed for use in this way and never will be for very good reason, it's a great way to encourage resistance to develop and promoting it as an alternative application method on a public forum is both irresponsible and damaging to the industry. Resistance to wormers, flukicides, antibiotics etc are real threats if the products used to treat them are misused and are also a PR disaster in the making too.
More info for product choice (including withdrawals) on the COWS website which may be useful. And no, restricting intakes won't guarantee accurate doses and mixing it in water troughs won't guarantee accurate doses either. The products aren't licensed for use in this way and never will be for very good reason, it's a great way to encourage resistance to develop and promoting it as an alternative application method on a public forum is both irresponsible and damaging to the industry. Resistance to wormers, flukicides, antibiotics etc are real threats if the products used to treat them are misused and are also a PR disaster in the making too.
it's not over
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When they start paying a proper price for what is a consistently great product,not a 1996 price,then I will play by the rule book. I'm not stressing out my cows for 25p
foxbox
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They? It's not a consistently great product if it's got ved med residues in it and if you're linking the price your customer is paying you to gripes with the law then it's a fair leap really. It'll cost you (and the rest of us) a lot more than 25p when resistance arrives unfortunately. I've sat in meetings at the VMD where posts from this forum have been used as examples of bad practice and the need for more controls on the use of vet meds; there are quite a few from outside the industry with an eye on us and at present they have a sympathetic Secretary of State too. Talk of a "licence to farm" and vet only administration are bloody difficult to argue against when posts like some of those above are being presented as a counter argument.
it's not over
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We're only talking about fluke dose and admistering it. I'm not getting my arm broke not stressing out my cows for 25p/l
foxbox
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That's up to you and at the risk of going round in circles be aware you're risking faster development of resistance by not following the SPC, you're at risk of falling foul of your customers and you're providing another stick to beat the industry with on a public forum. I've been told by outsiders that we shouldn't be allowed to keep animals without adequate facilities to treat them but it's not always as simple as that, there are alternative products with easier administration routes that can suit in some circumstances though.
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Why would you get your arm broke?
You should come here and watch my Mrs dose 65 Lims
it's not over
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Is that an invitation to come visit my French compatriot ,drink red wine and sit in the sun......It's a yes....please
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Anytime your passing
supercow
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Are you a dairy farmer? Like a normal one that doesn’t pay people to do the dirty work? You sound too well spoke to do the dirty work.
supercow
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That’s the debate, best for cow welfare, and a small trickle of a flukicide will certainly not affect resistance I gaurantee. Bad for PR, you think when doctors administer antibiotics for any silly willy nowadays and increase human resistance people are going to care about a thread that Iv made? A poor understaffed dairy farmer? I apologise if threads on fluke have appeared before I do not have the time to look through the hundreds of pages
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supercow
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I have to state that I did not tip a flukicide into the wagon I mentioned before I’m going to fluke everything at drying off as over half my herd are in calve and another whack served awaiting pding and days in milk 150 so this is my plan. Before I get anymore lectures!