Food Banks Whats Going On?

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
I’m not that naive, but people should get a hold on reality,
yes, Money recently has been too easy to borrow, and at very little cost, the opposite to when we had our first mortgage, 1982, View attachment 1087566we struggled at times, with 3 daughters, ( our choice ) helping put them through uni, now all qualified, and property owners, with a mortgage,
Our only advice to them, as we did, only buy what you can afford, and priorities your expenditure, this what the generations of today fail to do, expecting someone else to bail them out,
Yes I agree times were hard back then, each generation faces its own problems. The generation before you probably said you had it way to easy.
The question is if you were born into a one parent household in a poor area, with a mother who didn't give a feck (at best) do you think you could do today what you did in the 80's?
 

Spudmaster

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Location
NW Midlands
Am I out of touch
But. Are you suggesting a family on £60 k a year, requires, financial assistance, ?
Not stating that at all. Just flagging up an example of how these factors can seriously impact a hard working family via a very real impact on their take home.
it was written as a response to those who were making a very broad and incorrect assumption that food banks are there to provide for the eternally idle.
 

le bon paysan

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin, France
Plenty of folk lulled into a false sense of security with a 5 year fixed rate mortgage based on 0.5% base rates.
Base rate had halved since then but now has risen by 600% to 3.5% - As someone who recalls fixing an AMC Loan (on our now ex-accountant’s advice) when the AMC rate dropped by a third from 15% to 10% I can only suggest that the good times are over for the best part of a generation.

A £100 k house is not going to devalue as quickly or as much as a £350 k house (the developers current favourites)

A house price crash (some would call it a correction) is inevitable and paying ever higher high monthly mortgages whilst in increasing negative equity is not a place I would want to be …
When America coughs we usually start sneezing in short order..
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Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
My eldest daughter used to run a number of the “Sure Start” centres around the Sunderland area -they were abandoned to the god of cost saving just as they were beginning to do some good.🤦🏻‍♂️
Yes, surestart was a New Labour success. In many areas middle class mums went too and mixed and shared with mums from poorer backgrounds. Very progressive. Tories always ideologically opposed. And used Austerity to dismantle and destroy. Pretty awful really, the Tories that is.
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
This is like
‘ Oh your okay, you had a silver spoon,’
No, everyone if they want has the same chances in life, it’s just finding it,

Second point, this is a problem with today’s society, too many single parent families,
I don't think it's like that at all.
Saying everyone has the same chances is ridiculous.
There are too many single parent families, I don't know how you fix that.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
This is like
‘ Oh your okay, you had a silver spoon,’
No, everyone if they want has the same chances in life, it’s just finding it,

Second point, this is a problem with today’s society, too many single parent families,
I am pretty sure, that statistically those from a single parent family are less likely to be successful in life, this being the case, it is almost immoral that the government, at best is neutral on single parents, and married parents are far more likely to stay together.
 

Limcrazy

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Why do food banks require food that will store? Surely if you go to a food bank you need food to eat now or at least that week. Potatoes and eggs should last that long in most circumstances.
It's the foodbanks ability to store.
Food donations don't come in steady week by week with big collections around harvest times in schools and churches. Christmas collections, big promotions for a week in supermarkets.
Fresh products can be used as they appear but they need to be able to provide staples every week so reply on canned, dried, packaged food.
 
at 1 stage, it was an easy way to get accommodation, not so easy now, apparently.
Way back when I had the milk rounds I recall a Salvation Army official who was also a greengrocer telling me with his head in his hands that his soon to be 16 years old daughter had relayed her life’s ambition to him - get pregnant and get a council house. My 3 kids went though the same schools but had somewhat much higher ambitions. Two have degrees and the other a Bishop Burton NDA.
 
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Hilly

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Ever tried lambing 500 ewes 7 days a week 18 hours a day for 8 weeks followed by calving 130 suckler cows over the next 8 weeks again 7 days a week 18 hours a day, there are many tough jobs around very few are sugar coated after you retire like working for the government!
Yes its crap and wouldn’t wish it upon anyone , when did agriculture get in to this staye that folk try this sh!t to make a living ? Only idiots are the ones who do it, race to the bottom .
 

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
I am pretty sure, that statistically those from a single parent family are less likely to be successful in life, this being the case, it is almost immoral that the government, at best is neutral on single parents, and married parents are far more likely to stay together.
The elephant in the room.

Their are way to many single parent families now, the stats you are looking for are available, and the results speak for themselves.

Many years ago, when in power, the Labour Party stopped allowing single young females priority for social housing, unless they had a child (children). So out went the idea of a hubby in favour of a house, we are now seeing the end result of that policy.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
daughters a teacher, and the feeling l get from her, things are changing again, for the better.
have always thought the tutors training the new teachers, grew up in the 60's 70's, an age, very different to today, hippies, free love etc.
they are retiring/retired now. A different era training them now, high interest rates/inflation, etc.

does it make a difference ??
 
The elephant in the room.

Their are way to many single parent families now, the stats you are looking for are available, and the results speak for themselves.

Many years ago, when in power, the Labour Party stopped allowing single young females priority for social housing, unless they had a child (children). So out went the idea of a hubby in favour of a house, we are now seeing the end result of that policy.
If the Labour Party could only get them to be a£sed to vote for them, they'd be onto a winner!
 

bluebell

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The whole of the welfare, NHS, very soon will , by any elected govt have to be totally (over hauled ) and brought into to days time and condtions, not as were the time and condtions of 1945? That is benifits were orginally intended to be a "safety net" temporary for people in need , not as in many cases today a way of life, a low very sad asperation that many young people take,that living, "surviving" on benifits, not working, no "get up and go" not wanting to "better" them selves as become the "norm."
 

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