Foot and mouth.....Silly old fool?

[Sid]

Read this morning and it struck a chord with me

Probably a lot more than you but I'm clear now and intend to keep it that way.
I'm not getting into a competition who has had more tb or who knows more about it with you.
The thread is about importing cows !
If you want to start a TB competition one please do
I won't be on it. I hope that is my past not my future. You obviously enjoy being a victim I do not.

I was reading the Farmers Guardian and it said Friday the 19th of February was the 15th anniversary of F&M .
Made a lump in my throat and a feeling of unease. I didn't enjoy being a victim of that disease but it is essential that its remebered and the reasons why the 6 day standstill is in place.
I for one do not ever want to go through that ever again thank you very much.

Now we read about misselling PPI, etc etc wheres my compensation for the 15 years of post traumatic stress disorder? I have a book published by the Western Morning News I've never read and can't. Even writing this make me emotional.
Silly old fool or unhinged?

 

[llamedos]

Silly old fool or unhinged?

Neither.

 

[simmy_bull]

Not unhinged or silly. I started working for a guy in 03 that had lost his milking herd to f & m and it is deeply emotional for anyone in that position. Just shows you are a human and you have feelings.

 

[Kidds]

When it was announced that F&M was back 15 years ago this silly old fool burst into tears. I don't even keep stock.
PTS from the 60's is all I could put it down to.

 

[rjs15t]

Silly old fool or unhinged?

Neither, the better man because of it.

 

[Walterp]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

 

[Sid]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

Once again you jump to conclusions.
I didn't say I'd lost stock did I?
Did I say I got compensation?
You have no idea if I was fortunate or not?

Guess you didn't have livestock, sorry your better half didn't have stock at that time or you were so far removed from the outbreak not to care?

Can trolls get foot and mouth?

 

[llamedos]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

Woaah Walter, Out of order there!

 

[jamesy]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

Not your finest moment right there

 

[Gatehouse Farm]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

Ouch wind your neck in Walter that's bang out of order

 

[RobFZS]

i remember the panic my parents were having as it was getting closer and closer, tanker drivers having to disinfect their lorries every time they arrived at the farm, hanging onions in stockings in the sheds to hope it would pass, farming really is a sh!t job sometimes, never forget

 

[Poorbuthappy]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

Whilst I can understand why you might think like that Walter it shows a complete lack of understanding of what it was like to be caught up in the whole sorry affair. (Or a lack of sensitivity to those involved.)

We were under form D restrictions from quite early on. Having taken on a tenancy some 6 months previous (only messed around with grass keep prior to this) - all my regular work places no longer wanted me (as they had stock) so any savings we had left quickly disappeared.
The financial stress of losing work and not being able to sell stock added to that of receiving regular visits from ministry vets and the relatively inexperienced youngster that I was (in terms of having my own stock) fearing the worst every time I checked my stock.
Also not helped by having landlords who had building work going on creating lots of coming and going on the farm by people who weren't that bothered about disinfection protocols.
This went on for months.

It was an incredibly stressful time and whilst I wouldn't claim it did me any lasting damage I know those whom it did and I only have empathy for them.

 

[Bury the Trash]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

Crap post.Simple,as that.
Contiguous cull here in the early days..Including. fledgling contract poultry finishing here completely scummered.Stock compensated for but it was never restarted owing to damage/business contraction. Economic loss suffered to this day from that.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

think my father went through three , remember him taking about one in Cheshire , that would have been the 50ts I would think

 

[holywell farmer]

Crap post.Simple,as that.
Contiguous cull here in the early days..Including. fledgling contract poultry finishing here completely scummered.Stock compensated for but it was never restarted owing to damage/business contraction. Economic loss suffered to this day from that.

anyone on here who had foot and mouth not get back into farming sorry if question brings up bad old memoires ?

 

[a.n. other]

If you think you had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder then you certainly need help - not for PTSD, but for self-indulgence.

You were, actually, a very fortunate man - not every country would provide generous compensation for culling stock in a public health epidemic. Even fewer would seek to accommodate your sense of loss (even though, in reality, you lost very little in the material way of things).

Short Version: it was painful and nasty, but you were well-treated and you ought, perhaps, to feel grateful for it. I can see no sign that you realise this.

Interesting Psychological Point: you have not read your own book.

An apology would be in order!

 

[Bury the Trash]

anyone on here who had foot and mouth not get back into farming sorry if question brings up bad old memoires ?

All farms immediately (neighbours) around here restocked to similar levels.asap.
Sourcing good suitable/Quality of Dairy replacements was a prob.to rebuild herds built up over long years.
Ewes were back here in Sept. so not miss next lambing. Have kept as Closed a flock as possible since then.

 

[Sid]

An apology would be in order!

Don't hold your breath. he will just go away and hide like he did the last time. Takes more of a man to admit you were wrong

 

[llamedos]

Farmers need to know and understand, their mental health and well being is something they no longer have to try to bear alone.
Strong bodies and keeping your self busy is sometimes not the answer.
An that stiff upper lip some of us like to hide behind is allowed to quiver now and then.

 

[Lincsman]

As an arable farmer from where stock is a dog, out of interest was it better to have F&M or just miss it with all the restrictions? I heard of farm buildings all being gutted and rebuilt, was that correct?