Forage wagon - I don't believe the hype

Discussion in 'Machinery' started by smcapstick, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. DGC1

    DGC1 Member

    Location:
    Scotland

    Yes correct, 939 is hardly using any of its power hence why it can pit 200ac and the fuel tank has hardly been touched. It is its ability to push right through full 16t loads that are ejected into tight pits that means it can keep on top of the job. Once the grass is shifted a quick roll at low revs and its ready for the next load- effortless.
     
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  2. DGC1

    DGC1 Member

    Location:
    Scotland

    We dont ted anything- just rake normal spread or unspread mower swaths with claas 3100 or kuhn into big rows & the chop length is 100%. Young leafy grass or old dead single cut grass makes no difference as long as knifes are sharp every morning.
     
  3. DGC1

    DGC1 Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    No offence taken...
    I agree that 939 is an expensive pit machine at face value but being honest it is hired and it has a fixed price per hour. it uses less fuel per hour than any shovel, is fast on the road, lower cab height and gets used on the triples, seeder etc etc so is not a one trick pony. its weight and ability is only needed when the pressure is on when we have to pair the wagons in wet weather.
    90% of our pits last year (when it was dry!) were done with one wagon and grass handled with teleporter or smaller tractor/buckrake mostly supplied by farmers. Pit compaction was fine and wastage very low but this year we have only had 939 on all pits so far due to the weather windows... other than on one farm where it was needed on the wagon due to steepness and wetness of the fields (We swapped manitou 840 & puma onto the pit for one day)
    We cleared over 450acres on 4 farms in 3 days with alot of travel between farms, small tight pits and very heavy crops and only a big shovel or 939 type machine would have managed on the pit on its own whilst leaving a good job.
    Fixed cost hire, low fuel use and o feel that its being run cheaper than alot of shovels and they are becoming the norm now in many sp teams.
     
  4. DGC1

    DGC1 Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    Sorry james, i have to disagree re not getting same volume in. If the wagon silage is spread in layers and rolled between every load with enough weight then it will match even the best chopper teams at packing grass in.
    Not trying to diss shovels but with wagons running a fendt 900 can shift grass very very fast from the pit floor and this leaves it time to roll even with 3 wagons running at it. Its faster at rolling than shovel on steep face and even with two wagon loads tipped end to end it will drive out through the loads and up the pit pushing grass ahead of it. The pit is rock solid once its done so weight & hp DO make the difference.
    We trialled many pit setups in 2012/2013 and a very big tractor proved the best every time with the wagon silage. Never tried it in sp chop so cant comment but for wagon silage big tractor is best.
     
  5. aidan

    aidan Member

    Location:
    Ireland
    did you rent a tractor this year James to drive the wagons ?
     
  6. james ds

    james ds Member

    Location:
    leinster
    Yes I got a valtra 8550 out for a few weeks at small money , had a nht7200 out at the start but it was poor on the pto , no holding power in it , if a lump went into the wagon it could cut out.
     
  7. aidan

    aidan Member

    Location:
    Ireland
    No boost on the nh as going too slow I suppose, thus nh would be 160ish hp I suppose. How big would the Valtra be?
     
  8. Wellytrack

    Wellytrack Member

    What a nice old Fendt ;)

     
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  9. Finn farmer

    Finn farmer Member

    Stock 8550 is around the 160hp mark, but it has the 7.4l engine, so lots of grunt.
     
  10. Ace,
     
  11. Gerbert

    Gerbert Member

    Location:
    Dutch biblebelt
    Finest looking fendt with the finest looking JD alongside :love:
     
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  12. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    :banhappy:

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    :hilarious:
     
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  13. That trailed. Chopper seems to be coping ok with the lumps
     
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  14. Ben , if you want a good Kiwi pie, try Saltchuck on Bay Street ,Victoria eh:eek::D:love::LOL:
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  15. ColinV6

    ColinV6 Member

    That looks a recipe for a sore neck by the end of the day. Needs a camera on the spout!
     
  16. Spear

    Spear Member

    Location:
    Chulmleigh
    I would have said that was the easiest setup on the neck you can get. Better than a self propelled forager.
     
  17. Wellytrack

    Wellytrack Member

    Maybe so, camera’s are always handy. Trailed are worse though.
     
  18. Finn farmer

    Finn farmer Member

    Maybe it has automation to keep the spout in line with the trailer? I think that there's aftermarket sets for that.
     
  19. fiat 9090

    fiat 9090 Member

    Location:
    co offaly eire
    Try doing a day with a 900 sidefilling with learner drivers and that would def give you a sore neck
     
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  20. Wellytrack

    Wellytrack Member

    Was taught to fill my own load in my days as a trailer attendant. Flap moved, no chute action.
     
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