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155tm

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Arable Farmer
Location
Kent
Having gone from 24m tramlines to a 26.4 CTF system there are still 2 yr old 24m wheelings in some places.

The plan is to pull these out at an angle (more blasphemy). Then sow an overwinter cover crop using a 50mm wide point on a Horsch Sprinter, before spring beans or oats. Hopefully the cover crop roots will restructure over the winter.

The cultivator is a 4.6m kockerling (we can run it on the grid) from a fellow forum member who has seen the light and bought a proper low disturbance direct drill......!
 

Richard Budd

Member
Location
Kent
155tm,
Why do you not just use a low disturbance subsoiler????
You are going to need it dry out a bit as well....do you know something about the weather in our little corner that I do not???
 

155tm

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Kent
Hello Richard

It is more about getting the fields level. You can get a spade into the wheelings, so I don't think they are compacted, and the following cover crop will alleviate any present. The 750a doesn't move enough soil to fill them (good for other reasons!).

It is not only tramlines, establishing OSR with a shakerator, and the lumps of straw the horsch can drag together has left the odd speed hump for the unwary.

It will take 4 years to cover the whole farm only going in front of spring crops.

Weather is boring now isn't it! All second wheat now cancelled and the last 30 acres drilled will need some headlands and sluggy spots patched up if it ever dries up.
 
I am also moving from a 24m tramlines to 26.4 m ctf (8.8 m drill) but am planning to do remedial action following winter rape crops because of potential slug reduction and time between harvest and planting wheat

I agree there will be no more drilling till next spring an average spring crop will be better than any weather compromised winter crop the perceived wisdom that any winter crop is better than spring cropping is wrong even on heavy land
 

155tm

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Kent
I am also moving from a 24m tramlines to 26.4 m ctf (8.8 m drill) but am planning to do remedial action following winter rape crops because of potential slug reduction and time between harvest and planting wheat

I agree there will be no more drilling till next spring an average spring crop will be better than any weather compromised winter crop the perceived wisdom that any winter crop is better than spring cropping is wrong even on heavy land

@yellow belly may I ask which drill are you running at 8.8m, dale? And if I can be so bold to suggest a short cover crop after the rape? Vetch, Buckwheat fast growing N-fixing warm crop sort of stuff.

The plan is the cultivator will be for sale again in 4-5 yrs time......
 

155tm

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Kent
@155tm I noticed the field next door to your trials had been PLOUGHED I presume that isn't another visit required to the confessional box!

My patch doesn't stretch quite that far!!

He did manage to min-till the middle, but headlands were quite sad after all that. I believe that is why the plough was deployed.
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
Having gone from 24m tramlines to a 26.4 CTF system there are still 2 yr old 24m wheelings in some places.

The plan is to pull these out at an angle (more blasphemy). Then sow an overwinter cover crop using a 50mm wide point on a Horsch Sprinter, before spring beans or oats. Hopefully the cover crop roots will restructure over the winter.

The cultivator is a 4.6m kockerling (we can run it on the grid) from a fellow forum member who has seen the light and bought a proper low disturbance direct drill......!
An excellent choice of cultivator! An absolute bargain! When are you collecting it?
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
So how has your first 750a season gone then ?
Not too bad considering the late delivery. Finally got going on 1st October, only drilled wheat so far, will be going into cover crops in the spring (not sure what with yet - maybe oats and beans).
Had a few teething problems, mainly to do with seed hoses popping off because they hadn't been fitted with enough slack ... so got a few miss-drills!
All rape stubbles were DD, most linseed stubble was had a shallow pass with a carrier to do a bit of levelling. Only rolled a couple of fields ... they are London clay.
Overall, I'm really impressed with the wheat emergence ... very even, apart from one field which was fallow last year ... it couldn't handle 50mm of rain 3 days after drilling!
On the negative side, I'm totally unimpressed with John Deere. They are the most arrogant company I've had the misfortune to deal with ... this is my first JD purchase. 6 months from order to delivery and they couldn't give a damn ... they just wanted to blame Kverneland (supplier of metering units). They didn't like it when I delayed paying them!
I really wanted to put in my cover crops with the drill so that I could make any cock-ups where it didn't matter .... the Horsch Sprinter did a good job though (now sold).
Thanks Clive for all your postings, they have been a real encouragement for me to take the plunge. I hope I don't need the 750a refurb ideas for a while!

Nick
 

moretimeforgolf

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Kent, UK
That's my issue though Dockers, neither the dealer or John Deere will put their hands up and say sorry. They just want to play the blame game. As for getting any money off for the inconvenience ...dream on ... tough," the drill has gone up £8k since you ordered." They put the price up! As I said earlier, the actual drill is great.
 

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