Gatepost and delivery lorry.

[caveman]

The gatepost is old and I admit the fence around the water meadow is untidy. However the post had one job - to hang the gate, and it did that fu*king well.


If you think that is a well hung gate then there’s no hope [emoji57]

Looks to me like the gate was only hung on one ride and was probably a carry round jobbie anyways.......that is, on the odd occasion it was shut.......probably in an attempt to stop errant truck drivers from making a quick getaway.

 

[sawdust]

The gatepost is old and I admit the fence around the water meadow is untidy. However the post had one job - to hang the gate, and it did that fu*king well.


If you think that is a well hung gate then there’s no hope [emoji57]

I'll show you well hung...



Oh well maybe not

 

[Case290]

sell up move to a bigger yard. If your stuck with little gate ways that can't be widened.

 

[Grassman]

The gateway is 16foot, cannot be widened any sense, also do you all immediately go round widening gateways when when one careless driver knocks one every 20 years? It is not the entrance to the farm, it is an internal gate. The entrance to the farm is tight enough that we do not allow artics in as is usually results in too much hassle - rigids no probs.

We take the same delivery every 10 days or so and it is the same delivery company used, so access etc is nothing new to them here.

The gatepost is old and I admit the fence around the water meadow is untidy. However the post had one job - to hang the gate, and it did that fu*king well.
The driver did tell me he'd knocked the post, tho didn't seem regretful, but unfair to judge. I regret that I didn't walk back through the yard and see it with him. At the moment I thought "old post anyway" and I had the same "drive through my yard and be as careless as you want" attitude it appears alot of people on here have.

Thinking about over the weekend, it was an accident but why should it cost me time and money.
You all know that replacing that gatepost is not a 5 min job. Got to hire, collect and return a concrete breaker. Probably have to collect a sleeper as delivery on one would cost more than the sleeper. Clear the hole, mix up a couple of loads and stand the post. There ain't gonna be much change from a day.
I asked on here because I wonder if I am being petty. I probably will let it go, simply because I didn't look at it at the time and not because of the age of the post.

Thanks for your statement in defence of your case
The TFF court loves a good case like this!

 

[Nearly]

sell up move to a bigger yard. If your stuck with little gate ways that can't be widened.

That's the answer.

Thanks for your statement in defence of your case
The TFF court loves a good case like this!

Thanks Hangman!
Guilty M'Lord.

 

[dannewhouse]

be a different argument if it was a nice stone post even at same age?

put steel back in, be no dearer than wood and should outlast it, no argument when they hit it that they have to pay then, normally a big mark on lorry as well!

 

[Stevethemeat]

Phone the company this morning and report the damage( try not to send a photo if possible ) ask if they want to do a full insurance claim as it will possibly cost around £470 to replace and renew they will probably just agree to pay as it’s under £500 and affect any insurance no claims bonus and you can then get on with life sourcing out a new sleeper and bit of string

 

[JP1]

Yes, this might be a listed sleeper. Certainly looks like it could be.

Listed or listing?

 

[Hooby Farmer]

This thread is actually embarrassing

 

[Downtrodden Dad]

Could this be a wind up?
If the driver was negligent I'd be a bit annoyed but accidents happen. Plenty of scrapes here mainly because we are trying to persuade a driver used to A roads to reverse around a corner in a yard built when the wheel was invented. If you read the delivery note you will be liable for any damage caused to the lorry if you have asked him to leave the public highway.

 

[yin ewe]

I think the mistake you made was not going to look at it with the driver when it happened, especially when he had the decency to tell you about it. If it had a been a nice new post I'm sure you would have went immediately to inspect the damage.
If he damaged the curtain on the lorry then he will probably have reported the accident to his boss, what if they say that your access is not good enough for their lorries anymore and they will now have to be off-loaded at the road.
If you get regular deliveries from this company and this is the first time anything has happened, then why risk a bigger blow up over post and fence that has seen better days anyway.

 

[Dry Rot]

Bought some sheep at the same auction as a neighbour. We decided to load them all together and sort them out on arrival to save expense.

The haulier still charged for two separate consignments which increased the price by about 1/3rd to each of us. I was delighted to send the haulier a bill for a broken strainer....and would do so again! Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. I treat people as they treat me.

 

[Cheesehead]

Did you tell him there was plenty of room .most farmers do

If artic lorries come down our lane they have to reverse back up it hence why we tell them to wait up the top road so we can unload up there or if they don't mind reversing back out they can go down it but we always make a point of stating they won't fit around the lane and there is nowhere to turn around. Due to a neighbours gateway it is tight getting into the yard and so we use to advise the feed companies to use only 6 wheelers they scrapped them and 8 wheelers can get in though it takes them about 6 shunts to get in so we advise to use the smallest they have. They nearly always send the one with a sleeper cab and a 2 foot larger body as it not only blows the feed out but can draw it in too.

We have also had idiot drivers who have gone "Oh I can get down there, I'll get down there, oh we'll sort it out afterwards." Then promptly go "Oh I'm not reversing back up there. Where does this road come out?" Even though I had told them 5 times they would need to reverse back out if they went down there. I even drove them around so they could see it was tight and low it was but they were adamant they would easily fit and then told them to go the way they came by effectively driving in a circle. He took 6 shunts to get around the first bend and then promptly smashed one mirror, the wind deflector on the top of the cab and the top corners of the trailer, swore at one local about f@£g£*# farmers and asked them the quickest way to motorway and promptly sent him up the narrow road where he smashed his other mirror and tore one of the curtains rather than the way I told him to go which is longer but wider and promptly swore at another local leading to 2 locals to become vocal about rude lorry drivers.

 

[crazy_bull]

I think you've had your moneys worth out of that one.

Fully depreciated is the term we use round here.

C B

 

[Zippy768]

I have to admit I did p!ss myself laughing after I saw the gate post in question

Why? If it was a nice new steal post, which it appears everybody has, I wouldn't be asking on here. I recognise it is old which is why I was asking on here - am i being petty even considering? Damage was still done by the lorry!

I am actually surprised by the responses. Alot seem happy to turn their head away and shrug their shoulders at damage committed by others. Even suggested that unless things are shiny new it's fair game for careless delivery drivers.
It staggers me the number of suggestions of a bigger gateway!! The road has been that width since Adam was a lad with no issues, one accident, and thoughts are to bend over backwards and make it bigger. Even a suggestion to sell up!!!

I realise it has seen better days, which is why I maybe dismissed it at the time (I admitted not seeing it with the driver was a mistake). But surely it is the principle, Thursday morning there was nothing wrong with the post it hung a gate on TWO hangers good and straight and was NOT a carry round job - even latched on the other post . No it is not used as much any more as no dairy cows walking about nowadays.

@Downtrodden Dad if we are getting technical the lorry never did leave a public highway. Entrance to the farm is at the top of the hill (entrance is too narrow for artics) but the hill and road in which gate crosses is actually council. Also i resent the comment about the yard and wheel invention, based on a picture of a broken gatepost.

 

[Paddington]

I've got its twin, must get round to replacing it some day.

 

[glasshouse]

Why? If it was a nice new steal post, which it appears everybody has, I wouldn't be asking on here. I recognise it is old which is why I was asking on here - am i being petty even considering? Damage was still done by the lorry!

I am actually surprised by the responses. Alot seem happy to turn their head away and shrug their shoulders at damage committed by others. Even suggested that unless things are shiny new it's fair game for careless delivery drivers.
It staggers me the number of suggestions of a bigger gateway!! The road has been that width since Adam was a lad with no issues, one accident, and thoughts are to bend over backwards and make it bigger. Even a suggestion to sell up!!!

I realise it has seen better days, which is why I maybe dismissed it at the time (I admitted not seeing it with the driver was a mistake). But surely it is the principle, Thursday morning there was nothing wrong with the post it hung a gate on TWO hangers good and straight and was NOT a carry round job - even latched on the other post . No it is not used as much any more as no dairy cows walking about nowadays.

@Downtrodden Dad if we are getting technical the lorry never did leave a public highway. Entrance to the farm is at the top of the hill (entrance is too narrow for artics) but the hill and road in which gate crosses is actually council. Also i resent the comment about the yard and wheel invention, based on a picture of a broken gatepost.

Dont you know you can only post pics of perfect equipment/ gates/ fences all with relevant certification otherwise the tff jury will recomend the maximum sentence!.

 

[glasshouse]

Ps, i have spent my whole life widening gates.
All 30ft now
Cant be arsed folding stuff up or taking off headers.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Why? If it was a nice new steal post, which it appears everybody has, I wouldn't be asking on here. I recognise it is old which is why I was asking on here - am i being petty even considering? Damage was still done by the lorry!

I am actually surprised by the responses. Alot seem happy to turn their head away and shrug their shoulders at damage committed by others. Even suggested that unless things are shiny new it's fair game for careless delivery drivers.
It staggers me the number of suggestions of a bigger gateway!! The road has been that width since Adam was a lad with no issues, one accident, and thoughts are to bend over backwards and make it bigger. Even a suggestion to sell up!!!

I realise it has seen better days, which is why I maybe dismissed it at the time (I admitted not seeing it with the driver was a mistake). But surely it is the principle, Thursday morning there was nothing wrong with the post it hung a gate on TWO hangers good and straight and was NOT a carry round job - even latched on the other post . No it is not used as much any more as no dairy cows walking about nowadays.

@Downtrodden Dad if we are getting technical the lorry never did leave a public highway. Entrance to the farm is at the top of the hill (entrance is too narrow for artics) but the hill and road in which gate crosses is actually council. Also i resent the comment about the yard and wheel invention, based on a picture of a broken gatepost.

Well with the greatest respect it looks like it needed replacing before the damage...I’d be slightly embarrassed to claim damages on that....I think selling up is slightly over the top but I would grub it all out and put a slightly wider gateway in with a new galvanised post...it won’t break the bank...surely....

 

[Cowabunga]

Well with the greatest respect it looks like it needed replacing before the damage...I’d be slightly embarrassed to claim damages on that....I think selling up is slightly over the top but I would grub it all out and put a slightly wider gateway in with a new galvanised post...it won’t break the bank...surely....

I'd put a new galvanised round post or gusset-reinforced heavy [used] RSJ post there, however in many cases that means extra strainers for the fence on both sides. It's probably best to separate the strainer post from the gate posts anyway for the long term.