Generator

Has anybody got a recommendation for a PTO generator? It will to be at least 70 KVA and 3 phase.

There seem to be some scarily cheap ones on the market.

I'm writing this as we have lost a phase and I've had cows standing in the collecting yard for 2 hours already. I'm just about to give up and let the cows out again and milk early this afternoon.

Thanks
 
Location
West Wales
Has anybody got a recommendation for a PTO generator? It will to be at least 70 KVA and 3 phase.

There seem to be some scarily cheap ones on the market.

I'm writing this as we have lost a phase and I've had cows standing in the collecting yard for 2 hours already. I'm just about to give up and let the cows out again and milk early this afternoon.

Thanks

if it’s not just to get you out of the sh!t today I’d get a stationary engine one. And yes just let the cows go too
 

jondear

Member
Location
Devon
Has anybody got a recommendation for a PTO generator? It will to be at least 70 KVA and 3 phase.

There seem to be some scarily cheap ones on the market.

I'm writing this as we have lost a phase and I've had cows standing in the collecting yard for 2 hours already. I'm just about to give up and let the cows out again and milk early this afternoon.

Thanks
Have you not got one already ?
 
if it’s not just to get you out of the sh!t today I’d get a stationary engine one. And yes just let the cows go too
I'm sure we'll have power back late on and skipping a milking isn't going to cause a bunch of stale cows much harm.

Why stationary? I just always think what's the chance of it starting when you need it but I always have a tractor about.
 
Location
West Wales
We’re fairly limited on tractors here so maybe different for you. But they’re meant to be run a bit even if not needed and I think there is a far better chance with a stationary one.
Also it will then be wired in so chance of someone stealing the lead.
Much cheaper to run for longer periods too.
 

pappuller

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
M6 Hard shoulder
Has anybody got a recommendation for a PTO generator? It will to be at least 70 KVA and 3 phase.

There seem to be some scarily cheap ones on the market.

I'm writing this as we have lost a phase and I've had cows standing in the collecting yard for 2 hours already. I'm just about to give up and let the cows out again and milk early this afternoon.

Thanks
Cowells at Preston, top firm, 01772 653569
Will build you whatever you want
 

Cowski

Member
Location
South West
We bought a 75kva Bradley PTO gen from Halse. After spring ‘18 we decided to spend the money as we would have really struggled in the cold if the power went down for any serious amount of time, also very nice to have at peak yields when it would only take a milking or 2 to pay for it. Very happy with it, simple, robust and Bradley’s gave good backup when we had an issue with wiring it in. Looks like it’ll last a long time if it’s kept dry. Tractor knows it’s there when you’ve got it under load.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
I bought an 80kva genset from a dealer, ex dairy farm . It’s housed in a small shipping container, will be used as backup, starts easily, a Ford industrial engine, £2k.
 
We bought a 75kva Bradley PTO gen from Halse. After spring ‘18 we decided to spend the money as we would have really struggled in the cold if the power went down for any serious amount of time, also very nice to have at peak yields when it would only take a milking or 2 to pay for it. Very happy with it, simple, robust and Bradley’s gave good backup when we had an issue with wiring it in. Looks like it’ll last a long time if it’s kept dry. Tractor knows it’s there when you’ve got it under load.

Thanks. I hadn't thought of halse even though they would usually be my go to place for any farm machinery.
 
Location
East Mids
I still have completely inadequate tiny one that would just run an 8:16 and then you had to switch the milk cooling on after you switched the parlour off.

It ticks the farm assurance box though.
ticking the farm assurance box should be the least important issue. The thought of having no power for one at least two or more milkings when cows are fresh sends shivers down my back on welfare grounds, even for lower yielding breeds. Perhaps we have a particularly bad power supply (we're not half way up a mountain,, just a mile out of town) but we have frequent outages and we use ours most years. Years ago a line of pylons collapsed in an ice storm and the farm had no power for 3 weeks. OK now the DNO would bring in big generators to supply everyone but they aren't going to be there as soon as it happens! Even if the weather is bad and the milk can't be collected (which has not happened in 60+ years on this farm) the cows still need milking.
 
ticking the farm assurance box should be the least important issue. The thought of having no power for one at least two or more milkings when cows are fresh sends shivers down my back on welfare grounds, even for lower yielding breeds. Perhaps we have a particularly bad power supply (we're not half way up a mountain,, just a mile out of town) but we have frequent outages and we use ours most years. Years ago a line of pylons collapsed in an ice storm and the farm had no power for 3 weeks. OK now the DNO would bring in big generators to supply everyone but they aren't going to be there as soon as it happens! Even if the weather is bad and the milk can't be collected (which has not happened in 60+ years on this farm) the cows still need milking.

In the 5 years since we moved we haven't missed a milking before. A new generator has been on the shopping list for some time but it's been forgotten about because it's never been needed.

We did the wiring for a change over switch a couple of years ago so it's all ready to go, it's just a case of plugging one in. Agrecco have a huge doepot a couple of miles from here where they store hundreds and hundreds of site generators, I could always go and pick one of those up if we without power for any time.
 
Engineering place next door runs a 3 phase jenny to run his shop, the cost of getting 3 phase there was a non starter.
His latest jenny came from toys R us (a warehouse they were shutting down not from isle 3 ?) had less than 28 hrs on the clock.
I would seriously consider a engine driven genny, do 1 milking every month or two to keep it sweet, power goes down just turn a key and away you go.
Nothing worse than having to dig out the jenny hitch it to a tractor only to find out your low on fuel, but you cant fill her up as the pump in your fuel station is 240v :banghead:
 

The Agrarian

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northern Ireland
Nothing worse than going to a diesel generator to find the battery's flat.

I bought one earlier this year from JSP UK, herefordshire. Justyn will build or adjust to whatever you want. Mine is PTO, 42kVA rewired to 28k single phase. Outlets for power tools etc. Good frame. He screwed it on a pallet and it was with me in a few days. Lot cheaper than an engine driven gen.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Moderator
Location
Anglesey
Lot quicker to have a static already plumbed in to the wiring. All you have to do is turn the key, let it warm for 30 secs then throw the switch from mains to genny.
Wouldn't be without ours

It's the wind you know
 
Nothing worse than going to a diesel generator to find the battery's flat.

I bought one earlier this year from JSP UK, herefordshire. Justyn will build or adjust to whatever you want. Mine is PTO, 42kVA rewired to 28k single phase. Outlets for power tools etc. Good frame. He screwed it on a pallet and it was with me in a few days. Lot cheaper than an engine driven gen.
What hp is needed to drive your generator??
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Lot quicker to have a static already plumbed in to the wiring. All you have to do is turn the key, let it warm for 30 secs then throw the switch from mains to genny.
Wouldn't be without ours

It's the wind you know
Just need to run it regularly to keep the battery fit. Spoils your day if you turn the key & nowt happens
 

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