Johnnyboxer
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Land of Milk & Honey and sunny uplands
George Eustice's announcement "The path to sustainable farming." 2021-2024
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Land of Milk & Honey and sunny uplands
Smokey old Fords are eligible for grants under the new Farm Technology Fund scheme. They capture carbon from fossil fuels, and hide it in the clouds where no one can see it.
Was chatting over the weekend with Herself, and Daughter One on if we sold up here, where would be a nice and friendly place to see out our years in.
Temperate Climate
Speaka da English (mostly)
Livestock Farming possible
Shooting available
Shropshire ?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
If I were young I'd go to Africa.
Goweresque
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- Location
- North Wilts
No Minister (or civil servant) ever announces a 'consultation process' without having a very clear idea of what they plan to do once its over. The main point of the consultation is to provide cover for the planned policy. As there will be a range of opinions expressed in the consultation, some for one thing, others for another, there will always be someone who agrees with whats going to happen anyway, and thus it can be made to look as if government is 'listening'.
And easy access to Spain and Portugal for nice biking roads...
Ruled out France for riding, as they intoduced that silly 80kps speed limit....
Thing is, we need to leave behind this notion that it's OK to base payments at 1990 levels.
£70 / acre for whatever ain't going to cut it for me.
At least with grants for funding machinery, it's payable at 2020 rates, albeit for equipment that's of no use......
£70 / acre for whatever ain't going to cut it for me.
At least with grants for funding machinery, it's payable at 2020 rates, albeit for equipment that's of no use......
It's not just one consultation though. The whole thing is littered with consultations. They don't have a scooby. We should help them.
Otherwise, frankly, what's the point in discussing any of it ?
- Location
- North Somerset.
BBC following their own agenda announcing on the news that the number of cattle and sheep will be reduced. Not sure how they justify that interpretation when it will be the state of the market thst determines how many cattle I run rather than any scheme.
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Need to declare UDI.... Don't think we will want to join the neighbours across Offas Dyke though....
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GeorgeK
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- Location
- Leicestershire
Hmmm wait for the lump sum to sell but risk capital gains tax going up to 40%...
- Location
- Hammerwich
Here are links to two other documents that Defra have just sent over:
Agricultural transition plan - 66 pages - https://assets.publishing.service.g.../file/939602/agricultural-transition-plan.pdf
booklet explaining the changes to farmers for next year - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-farming-changes-to-farming-in-england
Agricultural transition plan - 66 pages - https://assets.publishing.service.g.../file/939602/agricultural-transition-plan.pdf
booklet explaining the changes to farmers for next year - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-farming-changes-to-farming-in-england
Pieces_of_Eight
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The whole thing has come full circle (but for a different reason).
Paying someone to keep fewer animals is no different to paying people to "set aside" a proportion of their acreage. It still boils down to paying people to not produce food.
- Location
- Fife
I'd love to. But the natives don't like whites.
farmerman
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- Location
- Leicestershire
What a stitch up this is.
farming is fast becoming unviable, there will be much spilt milk over the next few years.
we just can’t compete with cheap
Imports
And legislation tying us up in knots .
far as I see the devil will be in the detail but there’s no real winners by the looks
farming is fast becoming unviable, there will be much spilt milk over the next few years.
we just can’t compete with cheap
Imports
And legislation tying us up in knots .
far as I see the devil will be in the detail but there’s no real winners by the looks
- Location
- Fife
It's all rubbish. Why does there need to be a replacement for BPS?
It's been announced it will phased out over next 7 years. Don't replace it with anything and use existing environmental legislation to ensure farmers don't pollute.
Why are British farmers so keen to give the state extra leverage over them?
matttargett4
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I have had the view for a while now that we are going to be third world in due course
its not just Ag, our (their) only play is to pander to good lifers who have a boat load of money but don’t really know where they got it from, none of them really make it, they just live on it and spout their views and make themselves heard, meanwhile we whittle away our industries that produce stuff, one day the fake money crashes and no one has anything to fall back on, we owe our debts to the rest of the world, we are then 3rd world.
im all about change, I’m defo in for sustainabilit, not for 5 yrs but 500, but central to that is food produced in the country where it’s consumed at least, with a clear view of supply and demand and a fair payment for producing it and doing so properly, this however offers none of that.
in 100 yrs it will be looked back upon like electric cars and people will ask why were they being so thick
its not just Ag, our (their) only play is to pander to good lifers who have a boat load of money but don’t really know where they got it from, none of them really make it, they just live on it and spout their views and make themselves heard, meanwhile we whittle away our industries that produce stuff, one day the fake money crashes and no one has anything to fall back on, we owe our debts to the rest of the world, we are then 3rd world.
im all about change, I’m defo in for sustainabilit, not for 5 yrs but 500, but central to that is food produced in the country where it’s consumed at least, with a clear view of supply and demand and a fair payment for producing it and doing so properly, this however offers none of that.
in 100 yrs it will be looked back upon like electric cars and people will ask why were they being so thick
Pieces_of_Eight
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I suppose it's a carrot & stick approach, aimed at reducing pollution and unsustainable production methods with the stick, and using a cash carrot to directly improve/create habitats for native species.
It will be interesting to read through the final detail and see what figures are put on creation of new habitat e.g dig & maintain a pond/plant & maintain a hedge.
Also, will these payments be reliant on inclusion of other public goods (e.g. public access)? Or will that have a payment system of its own?
- Location
- North Somerset.
Could be the half acre pond/swamp that they took off my small claim a few years ago together with a minuscule area of wooded gully could be worth more that the rest of the holding under the terms of Goldsmiths Ecobabble.