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Get the popcorn out, what combine for 400 acres?

Hampton

Member
BASIS
Location
Shropshire
I think an 18 foot header is pushing it on a 320, depending on how much straw you want to push through
I'd want a 430 on 18.
We had an 18foot on our previous 2007 Tucson 320. It handled it fine.
Got a 20ft on our current 430.
Cutting 450 acres per year. Think I’ve got the right sized combine for my farm at the moment with banks etc. If it was flat, the 320 would be fine.
Quite fancy a 440 though ;)
 

Daniel

Member
Is a 430 a 5 walker combine ?

Yes, 440 is a 6 walker, 450 is a 6 walker with more hp I think.

Have got a couple of 450s under consideration, one is 2011 model, 1600 hrs with a yield meter.

Other is 2008 model 2000 hrs and £14k cheaper, both have vario 6.6 metre (21.5 ft) headers, chaff spreaders and choppers.

Either of these would romp through harvest so quick we hardly noticed it I should think.

All of these options would have years of life in them, I would like to think the next machine will run on to its 30th birthday like this one has, the finance charges take a bit of swallowing in the short term though.

Whatever happens, be it contractor or replacement machine, combining costs are going up, was offered a trade in price on the old Dominator that put depreciation at £2.50/ac + £10/ac fuel? plus probably another £3.50/ac in parts and maintenance, £16/ac to cut when you want to!

Maybe it will do another few years?!
 
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KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
Yes, 440 is a 6 walker, 450 is a 6 walker with more hp I think.

Have got a couple of 450s under consideration, one is 2011 model, 1600 hrs with a yield meter.

Other is 2008 model 2000 hrs and £14k cheaper, both have vario 6.6 metre (21.5 ft) headers, chaff spreaders and choppers.

Either of these would romp through harvest so quick we hardly noticed it I should think.

All of these options would have years of life in them, I would like to think the next machine will run on to its 30th birthday like this one has, the finance charges take a bit of swallowing in the short term though.

Whatever happens, be it contractor or replacement machine, combining costs are going up, was offered a trade in price on the old Dominator that put depreciation at £2.50/ac + £10/ac fuel? plus probably another £3.50/ac in parts and maintenance, £16/ac!

Maybe it will do another few years?!
We had a 450 with a 6.6m header cutting 800 acres of grain it was a very good machine the biggest downside was it was slow to empty the tank and didn't like to get the last little bit of grain out of the straw so was slow in big crops of straw

Changed to a 650 lexion and it was no better except it could empty the tank in no time

So depending what you're crops are like a 430 on a smaller header might be a good shout
 

Daniel

Member
We had a 450 with a 6.6m header cutting 800 acres of grain it was a very good machine the biggest downside was it was slow to empty the tank and didn't like to get the last little bit of grain out of the straw so was slow in big crops of straw

Changed to a 650 lexion and it was no better except it could empty the tank in no time

So depending what you're crops are like a 430 on a smaller header might be a good shout

Lots of people say they are slow to unload, could the drive sprocket be changed to speed it up?

I think we'd be able to run a 450 pretty slow, if we were patient!
 

Matt L

Member
Trade
Location
Suffolk
Unload rate of 440 and 450 is 105 L/s. the 420 and 430 is 90 L/s.
it is a little slower than lesions at 130 L/s but it is a smaller machine.
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
Lots of people say they are slow to unload, could the drive sprocket be changed to speed it up?

I think we'd be able to run a 450 pretty slow, if we were patient!
I doubt they can be speeded up or they wouldn't have had to change the whole unloading system on the new tucano

On dry grain it was fine it was really when conditions got tricky in a bad season that things got slow got your acreage I'd say you wouldn't have a problem with it
 

Matt L

Member
Trade
Location
Suffolk
I doubt they can be speeded up or they wouldn't have had to change the whole unloading system on the new tucano

On dry grain it was fine it was really when conditions got tricky in a bad season that things got slow got your acreage I'd say you wouldn't have a problem with it

Older ones used to be 75 L/s which was steady but still a reasonable speed for machines of that size.
 

Daniel

Member
Well, the thread didn’t run for dozens of pages because a decision was made back in December. And today it arrived.

In with the new:
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And a fond farewell to the old:
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There’s a 5.4 metre vario header for the new one, its 5 years old and in mint condition. Hopefully it will be as good a machine as the Dominator.
 

tr250

Member
Location
Northants
It will go well we had a 440 for 9 seasons and it was brilliant. Was talking to mechanic and he reckoned they never see tucanos from one year to the next. The breakdowns are all rotarys
 

Fragonard

Member
Well, the thread didn’t run for dozens of pages because a decision was made back in December. And today it arrived.

In with the new:
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3FFF634F-6323-4F84-A954-9ED7B272E8D4.jpeg


And a fond farewell to the old:
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There’s a 5.4 metre vario header for the new one, its 5 years old and in mint condition. Hopefully it will be as good a machine as the Dominator.
Is that the one with the 800s and 900hrs? Like new. Best of luck with it.
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Very smart! At the risk of being nosey, what sort of money was it?
Any options like yield monitoring or Vario?
 

Daniel

Member
Very smart! At the risk of being nosey, what sort of money was it?
Any options like yield monitoring or Vario?

Vario header but no yield metering. Think you can adjust the sieves etc from the screen.

Price was high but I think stacks up when taking the longer view, PM me if you want to discuss.
 

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