Getting concerned

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Letter in todays edition of The Times

SCOTTISH COLONIALISM
Sir, It may have been volcanic activity that made the Scots cold in the 1690s (report, Dec 11) but it was their lust for a colony to trade in competition with England’s East India Company that bankrupted them. “New Caledonia” on the Darien Isthmus of modern Panama was funded by nearly every citizen of Scotland, from peer to peasant. Its position, population, goods for sale, and eventual demise were all foreseeable, but the slim chance of success outweighed common sense. The failure, within a year of the venture starting, left Scotland bankrupt. England paid off the debt as part of the negotiations that resulted in the political union of the two countries. The Act of Union 1707 was as much about recouping the debt of £400,000 as it was about crop failures.
Dr Michael A Fopp
Soulbury, Bucks
Thats where the parcel of rogues come in.
The scottish aristocracy saw an opportunity to get some cash back and actually sold scotland out for money.
The plebs started a riot when they found out.
“Bought and sold for english gold, a parcel o rogues in a nation”
Burns
 

bumkin

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Mixed Farmer
Location
pembrokeshire
Thats where the parcel of rogues come in.
The scottish aristocracy saw an opportunity to get some cash back and actually sold scotland out for money.
The plebs started a riot when they found out.
“Bought and sold for english gold, a parcel o rogues in a nation”
Burns
its a shame the Scots hold a grudge for so long they even sent us Blair and Brown as revenge :banghead:
 

Fuzzy

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Been discussing spring crop options with colleagues, some are certain there will be a lot of January sown winter wheat still, but can't honestly see it drying up in January even if rain stopped now.
I think February drilling on a frost is more likely as it is historically the month of least rainfall. But it will sure be a long while before drilling in 'ideal' conditions is possible.
 

MrNoo

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Cirencester
Well, they're on about possible high pressure Christmas and into the New Year, but ground here is sodden, never seen it so wet in my lifetime, even the brash seems to have "capped" over where it's been drilled in places.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Last night we put the lids back on some rodding pits/sand traps about a metre below ground level in the drainage system. What we have done was flowing and things were firming up. This morning went back to do some more and the water is now back up to 12" below ground level. The drains are OK, and moving it but just not fast enough to keep up with the deluge we had last night. So no digging today. We keep trying to solve obvious wet spots but not a lot we can do but wait for dry weather to allow us to get on.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Well, they're on about possible high pressure Christmas and into the New Year, but ground here is sodden, never seen it so wet in my lifetime, even the brash seems to have "capped" over where it's been drilled in places.

Yes, but the two week forecast has no cold at all, so while I welcome soaking in time, it's not suitable for land work apart from maybe walking over it and getting cross.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
I think February drilling on a frost is more likely as it is historically the month of least rainfall. But it will sure be a long while before drilling in 'ideal' conditions is possible.
I was sure that feb and august were the wettest months in cambs............
Be it black or be it white, February fill dyke or something like that......
think the saying goes.
 
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robbie

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BASIS
Last saturday I was shooting with a rep from a very large grain buying company and as things do we got onto the price of grain. He was adamant that wheat next year wouldn't get above 150 because In his words"it will only get as high as import parity and theres a lot more that has been sown in the continent".

Yesterday I flew in to charlie whatsit airport in france and on the approach from the plane window there was a hell of a lot of untouched stubble fields. This may all be planned to go into maize and other spring crops but there was an awful lot of acres like it, any fields that weren't stubble looked to have only recently been drilled.

Today I travelled on bus to Disneyland and from the ground things looked just as depressing. Lots of fresh drilled fields had that shimmery appearance from being water logged and anything that had been sprayed had foot deep tramlines level full of water, the couple of fields that were up in rows had bare patches and lots of stubble had standing water on it.

If this is a reflection of what things are like further across the continent then I think wheat especially will be short supply next year.
 

Honest john

Member
Location
Fenland
Last saturday I was shooting with a rep from a very large grain buying company and as things do we got onto the price of grain. He was adamant that wheat next year wouldn't get above 150 because In his words"it will only get as high as import parity and theres a lot more that has been sown in the continent".

Yesterday I flew in to charlie whatsit airport in france and on the approach from the plane window there was a hell of a lot of untouched stubble fields. This may all be planned to go into maize and other spring crops but there was an awful lot of acres like it, any fields that weren't stubble looked to have only recently been drilled.

Today I travelled on bus to Disneyland and from the ground things looked just as depressing. Lots of fresh drilled fields had that shimmery appearance from being water logged and anything that had been sprayed had foot deep tramlines level full of water, the couple of fields that were up in rows had bare patches and lots of stubble had standing water on it.

If this is a reflection of what things are like further across the continent then I think wheat especially will be short supply next year.

Without the internet we would believe the reps.
Have they not heard of TFF yet ?
Do they not know we can access weather records for other countries ?
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Last saturday I was shooting with a rep from a very large grain buying company and as things do we got onto the price of grain. He was adamant that wheat next year wouldn't get above 150 because In his words"it will only get as high as import parity and theres a lot more that has been sown in the continent".

Yesterday I flew in to charlie whatsit airport in france and on the approach from the plane window there was a hell of a lot of untouched stubble fields. This may all be planned to go into maize and other spring crops but there was an awful lot of acres like it, any fields that weren't stubble looked to have only recently been drilled.

Today I travelled on bus to Disneyland and from the ground things looked just as depressing. Lots of fresh drilled fields had that shimmery appearance from being water logged and anything that had been sprayed had foot deep tramlines level full of water, the couple of fields that were up in rows had bare patches and lots of stubble had standing water on it.

If this is a reflection of what things are like further across the continent then I think wheat especially will be short supply next year.
I would say its going to be £200 unless feb dries up
 

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