Getting concerned

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
To all of you farming heavy soils, you have my sympathies, I would have been getting worried by now in my old job !!

I'm relaxed here farming on top of a stony chalk hill, the OSR is growing, the BG emerging and everything is up together for a bit, I'm 10 days away from thinking about starting drilling so I'm crossing everything that the weather improves in October...
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robbie

Member
BASIS
Go and buy an old KV tine drill and put it on your lightest tractor with some big wheels. Wheat always surprises because even where you think you’ve mauled it in, it’ll deliver. What you don’t want is ruts so tool up quickly before everybody else does.
Dust in barley,puddle in wheat. Or
Drill in slop and be sure of a crop.
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
I'm 10 days away from thinking about starting drilling

Same here, T Hectares.

Original plan was to start last Monday and to finish tomorrow, in order to avoid the usual danger here of being rained off.

Not yet started.

But now, after 7 days rain, it's lying so wet hereabouts that we seem to have had a lucky escape by not having planted anything yet, but it'll take probably 10 days to dry out ahead of my next big plan.

Start 10th October - Finish 18th.

:D:D
 
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Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
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Land destined for wheat after a poor osr crop has greened up after being sprayed off 2 weeks ago then raked a week ago. The drilling would go but not before spraying it off again and the wind isn’t due to drop until mid next week. I’m not having cranesbill like this getting a head start, nor the brome and ryegrass coming through too. I might be able to get away with less BYDV aphid insecticide too.
 

bankrupt

Member
Location
EX17/20
Land destined for wheat after a poor osr crop has greened up after being sprayed off 2 weeks ago then raked a week ago. The drilling would go but not before spraying it off again and the wind isn’t due to drop until mid next week. I’m not having cranesbill like this getting a head start, nor the brome and ryegrass coming through too. I might be able to get away with less BYDV aphid insecticide too.

So caught up are we all here with my own 2019 autumn mistakes, setbacks and management regrets, Brisel, one never actually realized that the DD option might have it's own little problems, too.

:D:D:D
 
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Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
So caught up are we all here with my own 2019 autumn mistakes, setbacks and management regrets, Brisel, one never actually realized that the DD option might have it's own little problems, too.

:D:D:D

DD certainly has its own quirks and anyone who says it is simple is a liar. A shift in weed spectrum favouring woody weeds like sycamore plus groundsel, willowherb & cranesbill. Luckily I don't need wellies to walk across the ground now. Any thin crop will let weeds establish - my cultivating neighbours also had CSFB infested osr crops & none of us can drill in the pouring rain.

I've just got to think of a brew that will knock out the weeds. 3.5 l/ha Kyleo evidently wasn't enough for the field pansy and cranesbill. Next choice will be glyphosate and Validate surfactant.
 

Cowcorn

Member
Mixed Farmer
DD certainly has its own quirks and anyone who says it is simple is a liar. A shift in weed spectrum favouring woody weeds like sycamore plus groundsel, willowherb & cranesbill. Luckily I don't need wellies to walk across the ground now. Any thin crop will let weeds establish - my cultivating neighbours also had CSFB infested osr crops & none of us can drill in the pouring rain.

I've just got to think of a brew that will knock out the weeds. 3.5 l/ha Kyleo evidently wasn't enough for the field pansy and cranesbill. Next choice will be glyphosate and Validate surfactant.
Throw a jug of paracetic acid yhe 10 % stuff into the tank before the gly to give it more kick !
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Go and buy an old KV tine drill and put it on your lightest tractor with some big wheels. Wheat always surprises because even where you think you’ve mauled it in, it’ll deliver. What you don’t want is ruts so tool up quickly before everybody else does.
Dust in barley,puddle in wheat. Or
Drill in slop and be sure of a crop.
The big problem is that we must not drill anything unless we can put a pre em on within 48 hours.
I faced a dilemma this morning as to whether or not to spray the 4 fields I drilled Thursday and yesterday:

I knew the weather was going to deteriorate by the end of today.
The land is already wet enough.
If I wait til after it dries up, it will be too late as the BG will already have germinated.
How much of a rut will I create now compared to waiting till after the wet has gone through?

However,
Spraying early today, would at least give the Chemicals a chance to lock up, reducing that chance of leaching before the very wet weather comes.
The land is just dry enough so as not to create a rut as yet.

Answer:
Get it sprayed,
And do not drill any more until the wet weather has past through.

Had I have drilled some more today, spraying it would not have given it enough time to lock up enough.
And it was getting more and more (far too) windy to spray as the day went on.

Moral of the story:
If you can spray it, don’t drill it.
 
DD certainly has its own quirks and anyone who says it is simple is a liar. A shift in weed spectrum favouring woody weeds like sycamore plus groundsel, willowherb & cranesbill. Luckily I don't need wellies to walk across the ground now. Any thin crop will let weeds establish - my cultivating neighbours also had CSFB infested osr crops & none of us can drill in the pouring rain.

I've just got to think of a brew that will knock out the weeds. 3.5 l/ha Kyleo evidently wasn't enough for the field pansy and cranesbill. Next choice will be glyphosate and Validate surfactant.

DFF is pretty good on the changing broadleaf spectrum.

I've been able to no till fields this week which no way I would if cultivating. Drill keeps clean on unmoved soils without its structure fecked.
 
The big problem is that we must not drill anything unless we can put a pre em on within 48 hours.
I faced a dilemma this morning as to whether or not to spray the 4 fields I drilled Thursday and yesterday:

I knew the weather was going to deteriorate by the end of today.
The land is already wet enough.
If I wait til after it dries up, it will be too late as the BG will already have germinated.
How much of a rut will I create now compared to waiting till after the wet has gone through?

However,
Spraying early today, would at least give the Chemicals a chance to lock up, reducing that chance of leaching before the very wet weather comes.
The land is just dry enough so as not to create a rut as yet.

Answer:
Get it sprayed,
And do not drill any more until the wet weather has past through.

Had I have drilled some more today, spraying it would not have given it enough time to lock up enough.
And it was getting more and more (far too) windy to spray as the day went on.

Moral of the story:
If you can spray it, don’t drill it.

Unless of course you mix a bit of glyphosate with the pre em and wait as late as you dare? Not for the faint hearted this season of course but its an extra tool
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
DFF is pretty good on the changing broadleaf spectrum.

I've been able to no till fields this week which no way I would if cultivating. Drill keeps clean on unmoved soils without its structure fecked.

I use a full dose of DFF in the autumn. Always have. Very good on my weed spectrum but only if pre em.

Throw a jug of paracetic acid yhe 10 % stuff into the tank before the gly to give it more kick !

That’s what the Validate is for. It’s a grown up version of Li700
 

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