Gigaclear ('Ultrafast Fibre Broadband') Request for Network Access Agreement

[Robert]

Gigaclear have requested permission (via a simple looking 2 page 'Network Access Agreement') to take a new fibre broadband supply in a trench ~ 50m long across the corner of some of our land. It will not benefit us in any foreseeable way as we have no properties nearby and therefore no likely need for a connection. It doesn't sound like we have a lot of choice in the matter due to the Electronic Communication Code, and at the same time have no reason not to support the initiative so that local households can benefit from the exercise. I would guess these agreements are fairly standard and i could do without wasting a lot of time or money on this therefore: has anyone had a similar approach / is there anything i ought to be getting more information on? Any comments appreciated. Thanks

 

[Nearly]

Talk to a land agent, the other company will pay the bill.
Make it closely follow the boundary or bury it 2m deep.
It will be your fault if you hit it in the future.
Cocks!

 

[Steevo]

It doesn't sound like we have a lot of choice in the matter due to the Electronic Communication Code

Well summed up.

It's a sad state of affairs that (high!) profit making utility companies have been given rights over private individuals (and often abuse this right too) almost in perpetuity whilst the level of remuneration provided for this inconvenience and risk is incredibly low indeed.

 

[Henarar]

don't sign it
tell them you want a meeting to discuss what they want to do and how they are going to do it and when and tell them you want an agent and they have to pay the agent
workmanship from what they have done is crap
from what I heard they have gone bust once
tell them to hang it on the phone poles or to stick it somewhere else

 

[steveR]

Talk to a land agent, the other company will pay the bill.
Make it closely follow the boundary or bury it 2m deep.
It will be your fault if you hit it in the future.
Cocks!

Depth thing is important... Utilities are always keen on 1.2m. IMO, it's not enoughfor vital infrastructure where a stray digger bucket or subsoiler can hit the line. Seen electric cables working up to the top before now, that were allegedly at 3-4ft

 

[T Hectares]

Depth is everything!!
Gigaclear cables are being "found" quite regularly around here for to it being scratched under the surface...

 

[Steevo]

Depth thing is important... Utilities are always keen on 1.2m. IMO, it's not enoughfor vital infrastructure where a stray digger bucket or subsoiler can hit the line. Seen electric cables working up to the top before now, that were allegedly at 3-4ft

Depth is everything!!
Gigaclear cables are being "found" quite regularly around here for to it being scratched under the surface...

Wise words!!!

Most utility companies don’t understand it. Often they even say 0.7m or so.

They are so used to working in a street where once buried it will never be disturbed unless excavating for something else to be laid so CAT scan first etc.

The shallower they can get away with, the cheaper it is for them and the quicker the contractor can do the job. Cutting corners!

Don’t forget potential drain damage too!

 

[br jones]

Say no thanks ,

 

[steveR]

Wise words!!!

Most utility companies don’t understand it. Often they even say 0.7m or so.

They are so used to working in a street where once buried it will never be disturbed unless excavating for something else to be laid so CAT scan first etc.

The shallower they can get away with, the cheaper it is for them and the quicker the contractor can do the job. Cutting corners!

Don’t forget potential drain damage too!

YES on the drain damage issue!!

STW are now looking at putting another pipe across us for carrying low pressure saline water (no I don't know why either) and I informed their Agent that before they even came on the land, we would need to have a proper Agreement in place, And that agreement would state that before thet even put a bucket in the ground that they would be required to put in a new stoned land drain (or two) parallel with their pipe for the whole length, to deal with the inevitable smashed land drains.

The voice of bitter experience speaking!!

 

[steveR]

Depth is everything!!
Gigaclear cables are being "found" quite regularly around here for to it being scratched under the surface...

I got cross with the NFU for paying out to the power company after I caught an 11KVA underground power cable that was at 600mm!! However, the power company did do away with the cable within a year after I kicked off....

 

[RushesToo]

I got cross with the NFU for paying out to the power company after I caught an 11KVA underground power cable that was at 600mm!! However, the power company did do away with the cable within a year after I kicked off....

You are a lucky man to be here telling the tale - they should have been sued.

 

[steveR]

You are a lucky man to be here telling the tale - they should have been sued.

It was a subsoiler, and the scorch mark and dimple was still on the leg when I pulled it out of the ground

I know the depth though, as I was on site when they came to fix it and showed the engineers the approx location! They confirmed it was too shallow!!

 

[T Hectares]

The Gigaclear connection pots are particularly attractive to verge cutters ?

 

[wanton dwarf]

The Gigaclear connection pots are particularly attractive to verge cutters ?

I read that as Vegan Cutters ...

 

[RushesToo]

It was a subsoiler, and the scorch mark and dimple was still on the leg when I pulled it out of the ground

I know the depth though, as I was on site when they came to fix it and showed the engineers the approx location! They confirmed it was too shallow!!

They should have been sued - they got close to killing you because they were plain and simply wrong.

Seriously they probably worked out they could cheaply bury so many kilometres of 11KV at 600mm and only get sued rerely enough for it to be cheaper to kill the odd farmer. You got lucky that you didn't die, their maths proved correct and they carried on burying at 600mm. The next farmer not be so lucky.

 

[RushesToo]

Here is a company caught out behaving like this:

THE FORD PINTO CASE:

ANALYSIS

Although Ford had access to a new design which would decrease the possibility of the Ford Pinto from exploding, the company chose not to implement the design, which would have cost $11 per car, even though it had done an analysis showing that the new design would result in 180 less deaths. The company defended itself on the grounds that it used the accepted risk/benefit analysis to determine if the monetary costs of making the change were greater than the societal benefit. Based on the numbers Ford used, the cost would have been $137 million versus the $49.5 million price tag put on the deaths, injuries, and car damages, and thus Ford felt justified not implementing the design change.

They were sucessfully sued.

 

[T Hectares]

I read that as Vegan Cutters ...

If it was only that simple...

 

[Canada Farmer]

Say no thanks ,

Personally, I wouldn't be quite so polite...
?

 

[Steevo]

Say no thanks ,

The new Code means you don’t really have a choice.

It’s very wrong.

 

[br jones]

The new Code means you don’t really have a choice.

It’s very wrong.

They could try ,but the pigs wouldnt let them !