Going rate for housing neighbours cattle over winter?

[Doing it for the kids]

Been approached in a round about way to house 50 odd chewies from a neighbour over winter. They are churning up their grass and the they have lost some light land where they used to be.

what sort of sized building would be needed? Ideally have hay and straw on the same site?

it would need to be on a long term agreement, maybe 10 years.

the neighbour isn’t your typical farmer, these are more for visual delight than making a profit...

I don’t know much about livestock!

 

[aangus]

105x50 at least that length longer the better feed barrier down one side £9/hd/week plus feed plus bedding

 

[Agrivator]

What are ''chewies'' ?

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Cows!

 

[texelburger]

We fatten cattle for a neighbour. Our silage and straw,his concentrate.£10/ head/week.One yard is having nearly 6 kg day of concentrate and the other 2.5 kg day.With the price of straw and silage moving upwards it wouldn't be paying,I suspect.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Thanks.

not interested in any inputs or labour, just renting them the space

 

[Courier]

If they erect a suitable building let them have it rent free for the first 10 years and then it's yours...

Need a watertight legal agreement though, and they can pay your solicitor for drawing that up as well.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

If they erect a suitable building let them have it rent free for the first 10 years and then it's yours...

Need a watertight legal agreement though, and they can pay your solicitor for drawing that up as well.

or we put one up for them, then in control...!

just want to get a handle on what a market rate is.

 

[Courier]

or we put one up for them, then in control...!

just want to get a handle on what a market rate is.

OK then . -- Annual rent of 10% of the cost of the dedicated building ........

Next question = How much will a 105x50 building with feed barrier cost ?

 

[Doing it for the kids]

OK then . -- Annual rent of 10% of the cost of the dedicated building ........

Next question = How much will a 105x50 building with feed barrier cost ?

not sure yet, chicken and egg here!

imagine 100k for the concrete and maybe 60-70 for the shed?

i know it’s not a great income stream but there are other factors at play which may make this interesting

 

[beefandsleep]

not sure yet, chicken and egg here!

imagine 100k for the concrete and maybe 60-70 for the shed?

i know it’s not a great income stream but there are other factors at play which may make this interesting [emoji2]

Nowhere near that, and you don’t need to concrete the lot. Shed, erected, 30k, Just concrete a feed stance. I would think it could be done for 50k or not much more.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

Nowhere near that, and you don’t need to concrete the lot. Shed, erected, 30k, Just concrete a feed stance. I would think it could be done for 50k or not much more.

oh good!

what sort of heights are needed - is 6m at eaves considered overkill?

 

[beefandsleep]

oh good!

what sort of heights are needed - is 6m at eaves considered overkill?

Perhaps a little, though that would give you more potential future uses. I wouldn’t go below 12ft personally.

 

[Jdunn55]

Perhaps a little, though that would give you more potential future uses. I wouldn’t go below 12ft personally.

I wouldnt go below 14' these days, everything's getting bigger all the time when we got our quotes through the 14' was less than 1k more than the 12' option

 

[Cowmansam]

Concrete the feed barrier stone the rest keeps them a bit drier

 

[Jdunn55]

Concrete the feed barrier stone the rest keeps them a bit drier

Agreed, weve got two identical sheds except one is concrete throughout and the other isnt concrete on the bedded area and stays much drier

 

[Skintagain]

A livestock Special 100x40 loads advertised. 18k plus putting it up and some conc - 30-40k done woth doors barriers etc

 

[PSQ]

what sort of heights are needed - is 6m at eaves considered overkill?

Depends what spec you’ll need when the cattle deal ends.
Will it need to be big enough to tip a grain trailer, or house vertically folded large cultivators, provision of heavy enough stansions now to add 3m of grain panels in the future etc etc.
Maybe pay the small difference yourself between lighter cattle shed and heavier GP spec?

 

[Dog Bowl]

Whilst it's all very well planning the shed, please do not forget about cattle handling facilities. The amount of places that seem to have lovely new sheds, but have no end of gates lashed up with string and a rickety old cattle crush when it comes to tb testing and the like. You won't regret spending the money to handle cattle safely and more efficiently, even if it is only 50 'chewies'!

 

[Full of bull(s)]

Whilst it's all very well planning the shed, please do not forget about cattle handling facilities. The amount of places that seem to have lovely new sheds, but have no end of gates lashed up with string and a rickety old cattle crush when it comes to tb testing and the like. You won't regret spending the money to handle cattle safely and more efficiently, even if it is only 50 'chewies'!

Good point and it doesn’t stop there. A new shed built in an open farmyard with no other stock, no perimeter fence etc wait until they get out one night and see where they end up. There is a lot more cost involved than just the shed. I had this problem years ago, someone Deliberately let 30 500 kg bulls out of a building I rented down the road from me, they ended up in a garden in the next village the next morning, carnage, middle the night, building owner was helping went across a field looking for them in the dark, had a bad turn and collapsed took an hour to find him in the corn. I felt terrible about it but providing the stock proof environment is the landlords responsibility but what can you do in that situation?