Grassweed attack!!

[Mr Tree]

I’m sure like many we’ve used luximo as pre em and now needing to spend more of the profits !!!! On a contact

Used in the past Atlantis -good whilst it worked
Broadway star- now no good here as we have black grass as well as Italian
Proverb- didn’t see much diff if any to Atlantis

Monolith - tempted to use it across the board
Anyone had any experiences with Monolith over the above options ?

Cheers

 

[Flat 10]

Used monolith once in a mixture with 0.3 liberator and was very pleased. Much better than Atlantis here. Isn’t Atlantis star the new standard? Ps- not used luximo yet!!!!

 

[Mr Tree]

Thanks for the reply @Flat 10
Atlantis useless here, bit the bullet here and sprayed Luximo wall to wall
All peri emergence as was so dry but fantastic job on some fields similar to standard in others.Still it’s a move forward I feel.

Monolith - I’ve never used it hence why I thought maybe worth a go.
Used proverb last season and very similar to Atlantis !!!

 

[alomy75]

I’m trying some Atlantis star; more for wild oats but hoping it will warm up some blacky plants too. Meant to be 10% better than Pacifica…

 

[Mr Tree]

Same as proverb !!

I suppose the old caveat from the ‘companies’
Weathe conditions ! Too cold too warm too dry too wet !!!!!!!!

 

[Flat 10]

Use plenty of bio power. Did you just use luximo in the autumn or a stack

 

[Old apprentice]

Used monolith once in a mixture with 0.3 liberator and was very pleased. Much better than Atlantis here. Isn’t Atlantis star the new standard? Ps- not used luximo yet!!!!

Was that for black grass or as well as brome?

 

[Flat 10]

Was that for black grass or as well as brome?

BG only

 

[Mr Tree]

Use plenty of bio power. Did you just use luximo in the autumn or a stack

Just Luximo with Picolinafen.

I had all intentions of stacking but pressure from other enterprises and weather left it in the box!

 

[Brisel]

If you have that much blackgrass, do you think that other strategies might be worth considering instead of ever more expensive herbicide stacks?

 

[Tractor Tim]

Seem to be spending more and more on autumn herbs and then doing a clean up job in the spring. Got one block that got no herbs back end because it came too wet so will only be getting the spring one and will fair just as well but without a extra big bill from chem company starting to think it's the way to go if it is possible

 

[Mr Tree]

If you have that much blackgrass, do you think that other strategies might be worth considering instead of ever more expensive herbicide stacks?

Absolutely
I’ve already implemented them quite drastically and I’m quite happy now with the system.
Unfortunately wheat in an arable enterprise earns the money and with that is still grassweeds in that crop although fewer

 

[Steevo]

Seem to be spending more and more on autumn herbs and then doing a clean up job in the spring. Got one block that got no herbs back end because it came too wet so will only be getting the spring one and will fair just as well but without a extra big bill from chem company starting to think it's the way to go if it is possible

Rather you than me. In a few years you’ll find the spring herbicides no longer work because you have selected for resistant plants.

Autumn pre-em herbicides don’t have the same resistance issues.

 

[Tractor Tim]

Rather you than me. In a few years you’ll find the spring herbicides no longer work because you have selected for resistant plants.

Autumn pre-em herbicides don’t have the same resistance issues.

possibly but a five year grass lay helps it just seems the chem company's are taking a bigger and bigger slice of the margin and the profit is getting smaller every year

 

[Flat 10]

If you have that much blackgrass, do you think that other strategies might be worth considering instead of ever more expensive herbicide stacks?

Ww might only be 1 in 4 say on our worst (inherited!) BG fields. It needs a big stack to reduce numbers.

 

[Mr Tree]

Ww might only be 1 in 4 say on our worst (inherited!) BG fields. It needs a big stack to reduce numbers.

Exactly

I know everyone shakes their heads but stewardship is the answer !
Stop fighting it and paying for the privilege

 

[Flat 10]

Exactly

I know everyone shakes their heads but stewardship is the answer !
Stop fighting it and paying for the privilege

I’m not fighting, I’m happy thanks. Might be winning even. Herb spend acceptable 1 year in four and paid for by good margin ww crop that will beat stewardship and other combineable crops.

 

[Brisel]

Absolutely
I’ve already implemented them quite drastically and I’m quite happy now with the system.
Unfortunately wheat in an arable enterprise earns the money and with that is still grassweeds in that crop although fewer

What other control methods do you use please? I have a considerable blackgrass burden here and have had to use some big stacks. Spring crop area has been increased and legume fallows are now being deployed in the worst fields. If wheat prices drop back, the margin will not support these big herbicide bills. The hard part is finding an alternative that pays the bills and reduces the burden.

 

[Chap]

Little amounts of black grass here . That’s under control. Brome is fast becoming a problem though.

 

[snarling bee]

If one SU contact has stopped working, none of the others will. I'd not used a spring BG SU for probably 10 years, did one field last spring and I may as well have pi$$ed in the sprayer.