Guard dogs.
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Why the cross? Are the parents proven workers and how are the temperaments? Do you want a simple guard woof/bark dog that looks 'ard or a deranged seek and destry killer foaming at the mouth or an intelligent discerning protection dog? How much time do you have to train and keep it entertained vs how driven it is. Also, how likely is it to get itself into trouble? People, footpaths etc More drive = More likely to get into trouble
Looking for one to bark and alert to visitors arriving at closed farm gate and to be on a chain at night to alert of visitors with the deterrent effect that will have. Kennel to be in Lee of a shipping container where we keep all the usual farming hand tools. Footpath is two fields away and I only let dogs down there if in my presence. Parents are trained guard dogs, father trained to restrain by holding by arm. Plenty of time as full time job ending and will be spending more time up farm alongside collie and huntaway.
Sounds like a quieter less driven one may suit? Malinois are pretty full on. I had a quiet GSDx that filled a very similar role, looked like the devil himself when in work mode but a little easy going softy. Dear old mum had a highly driven - thing when I was a kid that was just dangerous. Seek and destroy, no fear no pain type. Not fun to be around
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- Scottish Highlands
Malinois have the reputation of being highly intelligent but also highly hyper, GSDs are bad enough. Fine if you are employed in security and can work the dog for several hours a day to keep it's mind occupied, I'd say.
Edited to say a Lab off the right breeding would probably be ideal and nice to have around when off guard duty. The farmer I was a student to had superb Labs. I remember being sent up from the milking parlour to get his coat which was on the back of a chair, with the dog asleep in the chair. I was a bit apprehensive! Although the dog knew me, he dutifully followed me down to the milking parlour, watched me hand over the doat, then went back to his chair! It's not difficult to train a dog like that to be suspicious of strangers because they can use their intelligence.
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West Midlands Police sell dogs that haven't quite made the cut for their programme or are retired.
World class breeding programme for function rather than looks, so even the rejects should be quality.
Probably best be careful with anything said about the guarding function to police if you enquire. A 'guard dog' is legally different to a pet that happens to guard, and police records of why you bought it might come to light should it send someone packing missing a finger or two.
World class breeding programme for function rather than looks, so even the rejects should be quality.
Probably best be careful with anything said about the guarding function to police if you enquire. A 'guard dog' is legally different to a pet that happens to guard, and police records of why you bought it might come to light should it send someone packing missing a finger or two.
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Exact same dog we have on the farm as guard and helps with the sheep (tending and catching) a bit as well.
Easy keeper, not as nervous as some mals can be, not as big as gsd. Sound hips/back/elbows.
Mother was a narcotics dog (gsd), father a protection mal.
Crosses of dutch shepherd, gsd and mal are very common over here. Most of the protection type working shepherd dogs/herders are a mix of the three.
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Rottweiler would fit the bill, nothing looks as scary but aren't totally nuts to be around when they know you. Had gsd and a rotti. Well bread rotti every time.
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The farm on the crossroads further past you has 2 gsd's walking around at night after all the trouble he's had and since they turned up he's had no visitors or trouble.
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- South wales
I’d love a rottie I read that they make cracking family dogs don’t know how true that is
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They do
Might take a while to work out length of chain, I suppose if I find a body the chain will need to be shortened a bit
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- Scottish Highlands
West Midlands Police sell dogs that haven't quite made the cut for their programme or are retired.
World class breeding programme for function rather than looks, so even the rejects should be quality.
Probably best be careful with anything said about the guarding function to police if you enquire. A 'guard dog' is legally different to a pet that happens to guard, and police records of why you bought it might come to light should it send someone packing missing a finger or two.
The bit I noticed from that link was "...which are sold to worldwide government agencies and institutions, as well as private organisations". I wonder will they sell to individuals? So far as I am aware, Police Scotland will neither sell or give dogs or services to the private sector, but I could be wrong.
They do sell to individuals, but maybe only the rejects/retired dogs.
I found out about them after meeting a chap with a fantastic looking shepard mix from them. Apparently it wasn't quite up to standard for police work but nevertheless a brilliant dog.
My family had lots of Rotties when I was a lad. Brilliant house dogs because they are very calm, quiet, stable, and well behaved. They only bark if there's a reason, and are big softies.
Not sure I could recommend them to actually defend, ours were all bark and no bite. Very good sentries, always alert and scared everyone off, but they just saw it as a game (stumps wagging while barking).
brilliant family dogs and a lot softer than there reputation, in fact they love a good fuss. but at same time they are brilliant guard dogs and very loyal, we have been keeping them in family for over 40 years
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