Guy Smith's response to FW article on AIC rules.

[Grass And Grain]

Why can't these people just say "you're right, we'll work to fix it". We'd say "OK, great, you messed up, but now you're fixing it, fantastic".

But no. Just waffle.

Think FW print article is same as web article, which is here...

UK growers dismayed over ‘double standards’ of feed mills - Farmers Weekly

Growers are calling for a level playing field amid allegations of “double standards” over domestic and imported grain entering UK feed mills. Currently,

www.fwi.co.uk

 

[bobk]

Why can't these people just say "you're right, we'll work to fix it". We'd say "OK, great, you messed up, but now you're fixing it, fantastic".

But no. Just waffle.

Think FW print article is same as web article, which is here...

UK growers dismayed over ‘double standards’ of feed mills - Farmers Weekly

Growers are calling for a level playing field amid allegations of “double standards” over domestic and imported grain entering UK feed mills. Currently,

www.fwi.co.uk

The fact FW are highlighting the issue should ruffle some feathers

 

[Bury the Trash]

Why can't these people just say "you're right, we'll work to fix it". We'd

Because they are arrogant bigheads with loads of money coming in ,there's a fair few around like it..

 

[J 1177]

Well done farmers weekly

 

[Grass And Grain]

The fact FW are highlighting the issue should ruffle some feathers

I suspect FW are going to love it. Readership will be up.

I ought to be getting a cut.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Non assured should be priced equal to imports. RT should get a premium that at least provides a 4:1 return on the costs.

Exactly that. Not rocket science is it.

RT can exist, pesticide declaration equal to imports can exist.

They just want the money. It's obvious, and readers will work it out, just like everyone on this thread has.

If they're smart, they can save 50% of their business. If they're not smart, they'll all have to resign. RT, NFU AHDB.

They're backed into a corner. There's no way out. If I were them, I'd change tact and agree wirh us ASAP.

 

[milkloss]

I hope this doesn't happen:
we shout.
they pretend not to hear and do not engage but still protest that it's what the public wants.
nothing changes.
carry on as before

 

[warksfarmer]

What's he talking about. I don't get his argument.

We say we want AIC to allow UK grain to have same intake requirements as imports. Guy is waffling on about government, neonics, and watering down RT rules to lowest common denominator is bad.

We're not talking about lowering RT rules, we're saying we don't need RT at all to supply to a feed mill in same way as imports.

Is it just me?

The bloke doesn’t know his head from his arse and is nothing short of incompetent as well as being well out of his depth.

He doesn’t mind the cost of assurance to his own business because he’s been riding the NFU gravy train and now the RT gravy train.

 

[DrWazzock]

They just don't seem to get it. It's the disparity between imported grain standards and RT standards that's the source of contention. The "premium" just hasn't materialised. Its Tesco's Finest for Everyday prices.
And RT is voluntulsory.

 

[principal skinner]

I’m afraid you are right Lee, had a lot of time for Guy but now the bridges are burning. The NFU have a chance here and it’s only a slim one at that, to stand up and back U.K. farmers 100%, our standards some of the highest in the world, upheld by law, not RT.

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

The bloke doesn’t know his head from his arse and is nothing short of incompetent as well as being well out of his depth.

He doesn’t mind the cost of assurance to his own business because he’s been riding the NFU gravy train and now the RT gravy train.

To be fair to him, he is in a very difficult position. It's obvious what's wrong with the status quo (all their songs are the same), but it's his job to look after the interests of his employers; so he has to keep saying what a jolly good scheme it is for everyone and "look there's an aeroplane over there!" Or anything he can think of to change the subject.

 

[Drillman]

If Guy smith and Jim Mosley had anything about them and were truly confident of the red tractor brand they would be saying

“competition by way of a pesticide declaration, bring it on”

then they could show us all how good red tractor are at commanding a premium for there world beating standards,

However changing the subject and waffling on in true political style does nothing but confirm there lost at sea on a sinking ship!

 

[principal skinner]

 

[warksfarmer]

To be fair to him, he is in a very difficult position. It's obvious what's wrong with the status quo (all their songs are the same), but it's his job to look after the interests of his employers; so he has to keep saying what a jolly good scheme it is for everyone and "look there's an aeroplane over there!" Or anything he can think of to change the subject.

He’s just in it for the money because his extortionate salaries from both Nfu and RT more than make up the short fall of the shafting of the scheme on his own farm. In other words he doesn’t care one iota because his ‘diversification’ salary keeps coming in every month.

If he publicly came out and said yes this is totally wrong and left RT he’d get some credibility back.

 

[principal skinner]

The above is from the RT Facebook page, from the horses mouth RT goods only contain U.K. assured produce. They don’t know if they need a shite or a haircut. Clueless

 

[Drillman]

No it bloody well can’t!

I tipped my OSR in a shed containing thousands of tons of the stuff!

I challenge anyone to work out which tiny bit of the heap came from my farm

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I wonder if he realised what a scam this was when he took the job on. He did point out the co mingling thing, but has since gone very quiet about that.

He is said to be paid £10000 a year by red tractor, hardly a king's ransom. In hindsight, I bet he regrets taking it on. He has gone from being the farmer's friend to persona non Grata in a few short months.

 

[J 1177]

I hope this doesn't happen:
we shout.
they pretend not to hear and do not engage but still protest that it's what the public wants.
nothing changes.
carry on as before

I think and im hopeing its gone beyond that

 

[roscoe erf]

Fos

 

[An Gof]

No-one is blaming red tractor for government policy. The problem with red tractor is that they add cost but no value to the UK farm sector.

In a nutshell