Gypsum recycled paper
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Headless chicken
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Ballygreenan
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Gypsum (as in plasterboard) is carcinogenic and treated by the construction industry in the same manner as Asbestos. Would you bed with Asbestos fibres??
hubbahubba
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I tried it once with cattle when it gets wet it just goes to a sticky mess.
Envirofarm
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Hi all, I think there is some confusion here, as we are talking about "Gypsum Paper", not gypsum powder. You wouldn't put gypsum paper in a slurry pit. It would be composted, and spread. It is safe to use as bedding for dairy/cattle, and approved by The Environment Agency, AHDB and Red Tractor to do so.
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Never heard that before , where you get your information ?
Envirofarm
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Not according to the Environment Agency.
Paper reclaimed from the plasterboard recycling process can be safely used as a bedding material for large animals such as livestock.
Where did you see this Ballygreenan?
Forever Fendt
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must be some catch if its for free
Ballygreenan
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https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/99-113/
I didn't see anything anywhere as such, but here is one link.
When I was working in architectural practice it was a widely acknowleged fact that Gypsum is a hazardous material.
As has been suggested by others here anything offered for free has to be questioned. If there is evidence to suggest that the paper product is safe fair enough, but if it's not being SOLD as a premium product then why?
caveman
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At the very least. Charge them the same to dump it at yours as they would have to pay to dump in land fill as your opening gambit.
They are making a handsome profit to take the crap away and making even more out of mugs.
Too many farmers take crap with a view to saving a couple of quid instead of making a bit extra.
Semi legal fly tippers.
They are making a handsome profit to take the crap away and making even more out of mugs.
Too many farmers take crap with a view to saving a couple of quid instead of making a bit extra.
Semi legal fly tippers.
Envirofarm
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I can't speak for any other providers, but having grown up in the countryside and lived on a mixed beef/arable farm, I can say that assisting livestock farmers who are struggling to find alternative bedding solutions, as they do not produce enough straw themselves, or can't afford to buy straw in, is something that I feel passionate about and have taken a conscious ethical decision "not to charge the farmer", despite pressure/advice to the contrary from other less scrupulous providers.
You have to ensure that the people you choose to transact with are operating legally, have all the relevant licences, and are quarterly audited by the Environment Agency. In turn ensure that your chosen provider carries out regular product site inspections to ensure quality of product. All the necessary licences, should be in place prior to ANY delivery takes place on farm. A clear audit trail.
You have to ensure that the people you choose to transact with are operating legally, have all the relevant licences, and are quarterly audited by the Environment Agency. In turn ensure that your chosen provider carries out regular product site inspections to ensure quality of product. All the necessary licences, should be in place prior to ANY delivery takes place on farm. A clear audit trail.
Nearly
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Carcinogenic?
According to my memory when gypsum breaks down with water and organic matter it releases hydrogen sulphide. This is a toxic gas in confined areas but gypsum isn't anything to be scared of in an open field.
I stand to be corrected.
Envirofarm
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I think we need to be clear that what we are talking about is the paper from recycled plasterboard, not gypsum powder.
Nearly
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Yes, was typing on phone.
Gypsum paper bedding would be welcome here, gypsum waste on a pile in the field too. For someone comparing it to asbestos is very harsh. Just because the plasterboard skip is next to the asbestos skip at the council yard, it's not the same. But I can see why the council wouldn't want it in landfill, toxic gases and rotten egg smell. Not what you want when you've just sold the tip to a housing company along with permission for 200 homes.
Envirofarm
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Yes, was typing on phone.
Gypsum paper bedding would be welcome here, gypsum waste on a pile in the field too. For someone comparing it to asbestos is very harsh. Just because the plasterboard skip is next to the asbestos skip at the council yard, it's not the same. But I can see why the council wouldn't want it in landfill, toxic gases and rotten egg smell. Not what you want when you've just sold the tip to a housing company along with permission for 200 homes.
Send me a postcode and I can see if we can help you. [email protected]
Nearly
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Envirofarm
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I never said I'd take it for free.
I'm already in contact with the local team.
That's wonderful Nearly. I don't actually deliver up to YO7 but would have put you in touch with someone
Forever Fendt
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from what i have read after making the above comment there does not appear to be a catch and it sounds like a professional operation @Envirofarm whats your delivery area ?
Envirofarm
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Hi @ForeverFendt, why don't you message me your postcode area by sending an email to [email protected] and I will see if we are able to deliver to that area.