Gypsum recycled paper

[Envirofarm]

Currently delivering as far up as South Yorkshire, Down as far as Somerset, and all across Midlands and over to Essex/Kent.

 

[Envirofarm]

It's the glue in the plasterboard that is toxic not the gypsum

Were did you see this Cowgirl95 ?

 

[cowgirl95]

I was told by a mushroom grower that that is why they cannot use recycled gypsum

 

[Ukjay]

Carcinogenic?
According to my memory when gypsum breaks down with water and organic matter it releases hydrogen sulphide. This is a toxic gas in confined areas but gypsum isn't anything to be scared of in an open field.
I stand to be corrected.

Unfortunately (and I think this is where people try to defend the difference) Gypsum products containing Silica etc are starting becoming classed as Carcinogenic in some circles as they can contain Silica / Man made Fibres in various levels, which can lead to Lung Cancer if you breath dust from these products in over extended periods - so it boils down to how things are applied in the environment used and more importantly if you are up to accepting the risks. But like many changes to literature - it takes time to make it fully deemed as hazardous etc.

Quote from HSE, which spraying Re-Used Plasterboard Gypsum Dusts over the Fields can also be assumed as Construct Dust for the purposes of Risks to Health:

Construction dust
This is a general term used to describe different dusts
that you may find on a construction site. There are
three main types:
■ silica dust – created when working on silica-
containing materials like concrete, mortar and
sandstone (also known as respirable crystalline
silica or RCS);
■ wood dust – created when working on softwood,
hardwood and wood-based products like MDF and
plywood;
■ lower toxicity dusts – created when working on
materials containing very little or no silica. The most
common include gypsum (eg in plasterboard),
limestone, marble and dolomite.
Health risks
Anyone who breathes in these dusts should know
the damage they can do to the lungs and airways.
The main dust-related diseases affecting construction
workers are:
■ lung cancer;
■ silicosis;
■ chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD);
■ asthma.
Some lung disease, like advanced silicosis or asthma,
can come on quite quickly.

So (and I assume you will be spreading the powdered Gypsum over your land in powdered form), there will be a lot of dust flying around, so how are you going to prevent people breathing in this dust?

In your tractor you will be fine with your particulate filters etc - but if like where I live there are a few houses, public footpaths etc, so from what I can see we are advocating this as a no risk practice on an open forum, I am intrigued to understand as to how we will prevent say the locals being put at risk from what I will assume will be a very large cloud of dust being generated as this crap goes like glue when wet - or will you try and spread it like a slurry?
I can't wait to see the waterways / land drains when they start to get gummed up with this rubbish and the additives due to run off etc.

I think we need to be clear that what we are talking about is the paper from recycled plasterboard, not gypsum powder.

Do you guarantee 100% no Gypsum on your product? Additionally, I would love to know what has leached into the paper from the Gypsum board during its life prior to then using as bedding.
Does the SDS show anything of any value - or is it very limited in its information given due to use as agri bedding. Has their been any laboratory testing carried out to show how this waste reacts with animal excrement?

gypsum waste on a pile in the field too. For someone comparing it to asbestos is very harsh. Just because the plasterboard skip is next to the asbestos skip at the council yard, it's not the same.

Personally I do not think he is being harsh, as there is evidence out there if we care to read it, but the differences in how things are applied may be where the opinions vary.
For me, it all boils down to Ignorance is Bliss until it hits us in the face. Like a lot of things in the modern world - people have vested interests in selling PIW and marketers are great at selling Snow to Inuits!

I appreciate that the farming industry needs to make savings to survive - but I personally do not agree that Plasterboard waste is a great environmental image for farming in a time where the average joe (and I stress Average Joe), thinks all farmers are wealthy.

It's the glue in the plasterboard that is toxic not the gypsum

I think you may find it is the Silaca and or man made fibres that are added to these products that are the concerns / risk to health if appropriate measures are not taken.

 

[Envirofarm]

It's the glue in the plasterboard that is toxic not the gypsum

There is no glue used in the plasterboard manufacturing process, the paper adheres to the wet plaster. Simple.

 

[Coximus]

Howabout posting some samples out. Local lab at the uni charges between 12 and 30 for a constitute analysis test... i don' need any now but if offered free bedding id get it tested.

 

[Envirofarm]

Howabout posting some samples out. Local lab at the uni charges between 12 and 30 for a constitute analysis test... i don' need any now but if offered free bedding id get it tested.

Hi Coximus, currently the bedding is not free on farm, and like most the price is competitive dependant upon the season. We at Envirofarm are very competitive on price, at least that's what our farmers tell us

We already have a Constitute Analysis of our product, and supply in to reputable Veterinary College facilities too, as well as farmers from Kent, Devon and all the way up to Yorkshire. Our suppliers are regularly spot checked for consistency too.

I hope the above helps clarify.

 

[FusionDarren]

Sounds like a brilliant way to recycle and not send to landfill, if you need a reliable haulier, please don’t hesitate to get in touch midlands based walking floor haulier
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[How Dairy]

https://projectblue.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/Imported%20Publication%20Docs/Bedding876_180925WEB.pdf