Hampshire CS user - stripper header demo

[farmingfred]

I have tried, 2 years in most crops (other than barley) I stuck my neck out for 30k to try, I'm one of the few that has first hand experience of them on a no till farm

I just fail to see why they think they will get a different result this time unless changes have been made to dramatically reduce header losses ?

Shelbourne Reynolds were sceptical about its performance on wheat in the UK (especially soft wheats) when I spoke to them at cereals.

 

[Feldspar]

They have been developing these things for quite a long time now. If they were so rubbish then they would have packed the job in a while back. I can't see the Yanks being much more pleased to have 10% losses than we would.

I'm just trying to think, @SilliamWhale , why would thinner crops help? Is it because the faster you can go the better?

 

[Feldspar]

Another question, and this is a bit of a rookie question: how often does the grain become ripe before the straw in wheat, and how often does the reverse happen (and what causes one or the other to occur)? It seems if the grain was ripe before the straw then you could get in early before the crop becomes over ripe.

 

[Feldspar]

Shelbourne Reynolds were sceptical about its performance on wheat in the UK (especially soft wheats) when I spoke to them at cereals.

I wonder how much of a difference variety selection would help. Is there much of a difference between soft winter wheat varieties in terms of how easily they shed? Maybe not enough to solve the problem.

 

[SilliamWhale]

They have been developing these things for quite a long time now. If they were so rubbish then they would have packed the job in a while back. I can't see the Yanks being much more pleased to have 10% losses than we would.

I'm just trying to think, @SilliamWhale , why would thinner crops help? Is it because the faster you can go the better?

dunno maybe. 5% less in 1t the acre is less than 5% loss in 4t acre?

I think clive has tried to make it work!

 

[farmingfred]

Their comment to me was that the Hard red wheats in the US work best with the strippers, softer wheats not so good?

 

[Feldspar]

dunno maybe. 5% less in 1t the acre is less than 5% loss in 4t acre?

I think clive has tried to make it work!

And I suppose the benefit in some areas from increased snow capture is an important plus which is irrelevant in the UK. Anyway, no harm in going to see one working, and that was the point of the OP.

 

[Andrew K]

Most sales to US farmers are for rice harvesting i believe, a very abrasive crop.Have seen one doing a good job on grass seed in Essex, again a difficult crop in many cases.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

From memory Tony Reynolds uses a stripper with an auto cast to establish his OSR behind cereals. It would be useful to know how he gets on with losses

 

[Clive]

They have been developing these things for quite a long time now. If they were so rubbish then they would have packed the job in a while back. I can't see the Yanks being much more pleased to have 10% losses than we would.

I'm just trying to think, @SilliamWhale , why would thinner crops help? Is it because the faster you can go the better?

5% of a USA low yield is less than 5% of a UK high yield plus maybe their varieties hold onto the grain tighter ?

 

[Niels]

@Feldspar There is a stripper header running near you. Maybe you can try it out for a demo?

 

[Feldspar]

@Feldspar There is a stripper header running near you. Maybe you can try it out for a demo?

Care to PM me the details please.

 

[KennyO]

What about a MacDon type belt feed header. You can then just nip the heads off or cut full straw if you want too. Remember reading about someone doing that a few years ago in the FW.

 

[beardface]

Cut over 5000 acres with these headers in the U.S. unless I was farming a UK farm that was extremely dry and needed to retain as much moisture as possible I wouldn't bother buying one, or grass seed that too

 

[Banana Bar]

Wheatsheaf Farming

 

[Tom Sewell]

I was there lady week with David Miller at Wheatsheaf Farming. The 32' stripper will go on the front of a case 9230 axial flow to cut winter & spring barley plus linseed. They also have a Lexion 760 which will cut rape and wheats! Then it will all be planted with a 6m NZ built CS drill pulled by a 936 Fendt! Very interesting visit, they are the guys to watch IMO now. Lots of cc too. Very smart cookies and tidy looking crops.

 

[dontknowanything]

I was there lady week with David Miller at Wheatsheaf Farming. The 32' stripper will go on the front of a case 9230 axial flow to cut winter & spring barley plus linseed. They also have a Lexion 760 which will cut rape and wheats! Then it will all be planted with a 6m NZ built CS drill pulled by a 936 Fendt! Very interesting visit, they are the guys to watch IMO now. Lots of cc too. Very smart cookies and tidy looking crops.

Why don't they put the stripper on the lexion?

 

[Tom Sewell]

Prob because it will handle wheat better later into the night. Also David Miller drives the axial flow, he'll make it work!! I'd love to see it go with the CS in hot pursuit!

 

[rob1]

Why don't they put the stripper on the lexion?

Dont they work better when full ? If so then high losses when less crop going through, would think an old straw walker combine would be better

 

[Tom Sewell]

I don't know enough about them to comment only relaying what I heard. They only have two rotaries so will go with them. No prob in US with even wider stripper headers!?