You mean why is the mk 10 better? Much much fasterReally? In what way?
You mean why is the mk 10 better? Much much faster
Very seldom break s a shear bolt
Thinking about it dad's is star not a super star, I think, it's not the same as your blue one
MF introduced the sure tie knotter when they launched the 120, 124 and 128, earlier balers such as the 15 and 20 use a different designMF balers do indeed have sure tie knotters
I believe they used rasspe knotters when they badge engineered the riviera casalis balers known as the MF no2, 3 and 4MF introduced the sure tie knotter when they launched the 120, 124 and 128, earlier balers such as the 15 and 20 use a different design
I'd forgotten about the deep grooves the Jones baler put the strings in - so good for keeping the strings on. The neighbouring farm got a new baler ( possibly and A C ) and it barely put square corners on the bales , with the strings on a flat bale surface - lots pulled off.Old archive film of the Jones baler company https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-golden-harvest-1959-online
We had a baler exactly like the one in the second picture an AC 300 (in other words a Jones in Allis Chalmers clothing). It was a good little baler and very well made compared with the "tinny" New Hollands of the period. We had a Claas Maximum at the same time and OK it has to be said the bales made by the Jones were a bit tidier than those from The Claas but as for sheer output The Claas ran rings around The Jones. It would have seemed slow compared with today's machines but in it's day that Maximum couldn't half gobble it up! (cf A Claas Matador combine compared to a Massey 788 ).Our's are still in yearly use, nowhere near as busy as they once were, but enough to keep us going.
The early Jones Balers were made to work behind the Threshing Machine, as time progressed they were made more to be used behind the tractors of the time, the Jones Minor, Royal, Major etc eventually became the Star, and Super Star, ours shown below, the Super Star I believe to be the best baler of it's time.
The only baler painted blue, because Jones secured a large American order Super Star balers, on the condition that they were painted the same colour as the Fordson Power Majors that the dealership sold, blue and white.
I remember Mr Jones junior, son of one of the Jones Brothers who founded the company, telling me that the Super Star was designed to run behind a Fergie FE35 set to flat out.
Jones made several ventures into other fields, manure spreaders, grain drills, mills, hay tedders, and most notably the Combine Harvester, with the Cruiser Combine drowning near the shore when Allis Chalmers pulled the plug on the project, in favour of their own Gleaner combines.
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During the Star and Super Star production, Jones sold the company to the Allis Chalmers company, who integrated their products into the AC lineup, with limited success.
The Jones name made way for AC, and sales fell sharply, so much so that the Jones name was reintroduced, the balers could either be purchased in Jones or AC Colours, there are even stories of already built balers being repainted in the old colours to help shift them.
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Accountants got hold of the job, and the Mk 10T and 12T were introduced, still very capable balers, but a lightweight thing compared to the heavy duty construction of it's forerunners. Later AC found themselves in difficulty and the company was sold to Bamfords of Uttoxeter, who already made their own BL, Bamford Long, balers.
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After the 10 and 12 the content of the Jones Baler became less and less, an early example of Badge Engineering where a Bamford, such as a BX9 was Badge Engineered as a Jones Mk 16, below. Few Jones parts carried on into these balers. Bamford's fortunes were on the way down, and after an uncertain period, the job came to a close.
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Or it could be a mk10 maybeThere's a mk12 Jones baler here that my father bought before I can remember, it's a terrible baler! Never worked properly, despite being seen by a couple of baler experts over the year, it didn't get any better.
It was a happy day for me 4 years ago when the ram met the needles! !!
Dad wasn't so happy and is still thinking about repairing it
Or it could be a mk10 maybe
Thanks for this link My stomach churned when I saw the chap doing the inspection at 7 minutes into the film wearing that loose white coat thoughOld archive film of the Jones baler company https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-golden-harvest-1959-online
I went to a vintage tractor show some years ago and of course there was the usual working demonstration of a threshing drum . Of course being an old machine there were no guards over the belts etc. and the young girl they had raking the chaff out from under it had beautiful long hair almost down to her waist but she wasn't even wearing a hairnet! It made me cringe every time she dived underneath the thing to rake it out!Thanks for this link My stomach churned when I saw the chap doing the inspection at 7 minutes into the film wearing that loose white coat though
The IH baler didn't leave grooves in the bale unlike The Jones or ClaasI'd forgotten about the deep grooves the Jones baler put the strings in - so good for keeping the strings on. The neighbouring farm got a new baler ( possibly and A C ) and it barely put square corners on the bales , with the strings on a flat bale surface - lots pulled off.
Me too, - and in the field lifting bales - they were hopping off and on a moving tractor ?Thanks for this link My stomach churned when I saw the chap doing the inspection at 7 minutes into the film wearing that loose white coat though