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Help! Can't get cattle out of field. (Tried everything)

Redwell

New Member
Hello there - I have a problem on my hands. On my father's farm in the North of England UK there is a herd of 25 limousin cattle which we cannot get out the field, back to the farm and away to market. My father is 86 has worked the farm all his life and is ready to retire. The cattle have been in the field for the last 4 years and each attempt to remove them has been a failure. We've tried everything. The field is separated from the farm by what was once a quiet road and roundabout leading to the nearest town. We've successfully moved cattle with the help of neighbouring farmers backwards and forwards over this road for many years until now. Recent building development has caused this road to become a major commuting route and is now extremely busy which might be a cause of the animals reluctance to step out of the gate and onto the tarmac. We've tried the usual methods of temptation with cake mixture, hay and a neighbour's docile cow but to no avail. The last attempt was a disaster which ended in a cattle stampede leading to 2 cars being written off and pending insurance claims. The police have now informed us that to attempt to move the animals across the road is a serious risk and should not be attempted.
Things are complicated by the age of my parents whose farm it is. The farm itself is a typical small family outfit which is coming to the end of it days as there is no one left to take over. I am the only child and have made a life for myself in the city which is about 5 hours away. Despite this I make time every three weeks or so to visit and help out with stuff.
So, a secure pen was constructed with telegraph posts and steel hurdles. A local stocksman and cattle-merchant who had witnessed all previous failed attempts confidently offered his services (in return for a generous lump sum) to take the entire job on. I jumped at the chance as my parents - experienced and fearless as they are, should not be working in a confined space with 25 excitable animals. This was 6 months ago.
It should be mentioned that the cows are actually very docile. During the winter months they are given silage every day and can be petted. True to the breed, the problems start when they sense danger and potential enclosure. After eating continuously for 6 years they have grown massive. A number of the cattle also have developed large horns with one animal's starting to ingrow. About 10 months ago one of the herd gave birth to a male calf courtesy of a neighbour's bull clearing the fence. And we have just received notification of compulsory TB testing which needs to be done (generally every 4 years..).
The stocksman has given up and has stopped answering his phone. This is hugely disappointing as we are entering the time of year when the grass has stopped growing and the cattle are becoming hungry and therefore biddable. Even if the cattle are to be persuaded to enter the pen it would be incredibly difficult and dangerous to load them onto the cattle truck.
I don't know what to do. Neither does anybody else. If the animals need to be culled then so be it although I have no idea how to go about organising such a process especially when the cattle are roaming in a large field. Maybe tranquilisation is an option but the local vet has no experience doing that to a whole herd. A few years ago the area was hit by foot and mouth disease (but thankfully not us) and thousands of animals were slaughtered by the military so I guess it can be done.
If anybody has any ideas I would love to hear them,
Thanks for reading
R
 

beefandsleep

Member
Location
Staffordshire
If they can be got into the pen then surely they can be loaded?
Feed them only in the pen for a couple of weeks. Walk round them while you feed them (if safe). One day when they are all in the pen just shut the gate. I'm sure it is not quite as simple as I imagine, but if the pen is secure then it should be doable. Just get them confident about being in the pen for feed.
 

Barleycorn

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Hampshire
I agree with the above. We always set up the mobile crush and gates a week or so before we move our heifers and give them a bit of meal in it.

If all else fails these people offer an excellent service for tranquilising beasts. Very reasonable too, may be worth getting a quote.

http://www.animalcapture.co.uk/
 

Spartacus

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Lancaster
You near the Redwell Inn close to Carnforth? I'd go with what the first reply was, feed them in the pens, once they are shut in if they get spooked leave them in if its hard standing and keep feeding them in there, then fetch a trailer/wagon a few days later and load them up. Probably best to have a small pen set up ready so that you can try get a few in to start with and then they cant get too far from the wagon, if they dont look like going in put some hay/silage/cake inside. If they dont like going up a ramp bed it with hay/silage so it looks a bit less different to them and they might walk up it eating on the way.
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
Hello there - I have a problem on my hands. On my father's farm in the North of England UK there is a herd of 25 limousin cattle which we cannot get out the field, back to the farm and away to market. My father is 86 has worked the farm all his life and is ready to retire. The cattle have been in the field for the last 4 years and each attempt to remove them has been a failure. We've tried everything. The field is separated from the farm by what was once a quiet road and roundabout leading to the nearest town. We've successfully moved cattle with the help of neighbouring farmers backwards and forwards over this road for many years until now. Recent building development has caused this road to become a major commuting route and is now extremely busy which might be a cause of the animals reluctance to step out of the gate and onto the tarmac. We've tried the usual methods of temptation with cake mixture, hay and a neighbour's docile cow but to no avail. The last attempt was a disaster which ended in a cattle stampede leading to 2 cars being written off and pending insurance claims. The police have now informed us that to attempt to move the animals across the road is a serious risk and should not be attempted.
Things are complicated by the age of my parents whose farm it is. The farm itself is a typical small family outfit which is coming to the end of it days as there is no one left to take over. I am the only child and have made a life for myself in the city which is about 5 hours away. Despite this I make time every three weeks or so to visit and help out with stuff.
So, a secure pen was constructed with telegraph posts and steel hurdles. A local stocksman and cattle-merchant who had witnessed all previous failed attempts confidently offered his services (in return for a generous lump sum) to take the entire job on. I jumped at the chance as my parents - experienced and fearless as they are, should not be working in a confined space with 25 excitable animals. This was 6 months ago.
It should be mentioned that the cows are actually very docile. During the winter months they are given silage every day and can be petted. True to the breed, the problems start when they sense danger and potential enclosure. After eating continuously for 6 years they have grown massive. A number of the cattle also have developed large horns with one animal's starting to ingrow. About 10 months ago one of the herd gave birth to a male calf courtesy of a neighbour's bull clearing the fence. And we have just received notification of compulsory TB testing which needs to be done (generally every 4 years..).
The stocksman has given up and has stopped answering his phone. This is hugely disappointing as we are entering the time of year when the grass has stopped growing and the cattle are becoming hungry and therefore biddable. Even if the cattle are to be persuaded to enter the pen it would be incredibly difficult and dangerous to load them onto the cattle truck.
I don't know what to do. Neither does anybody else. If the animals need to be culled then so be it although I have no idea how to go about organising such a process especially when the cattle are roaming in a large field. Maybe tranquilisation is an option but the local vet has no experience doing that to a whole herd. A few years ago the area was hit by foot and mouth disease (but thankfully not us) and thousands of animals were slaughtered by the military so I guess it can be done.
If anybody has any ideas I would love to hear them,
Thanks for reading
R
Have they been tagged? I'd have thought bcms would want to have them shot anyway (n)
 

TheRanger

Member
Location
SW Scotland
A ring of large cattle hurdles in the field with a feed trough inside it. Feed them in there for a few weeks then once they're used to it shut the gate while they're in it.
 

whatnow

Member
Location
Wiltshire
^^^ As above, if possible turn the water off and water them in the pen. Perhaps you can quietly catch a few at a time and trailer them away until there is a more manageable number left?

Good luck however you try to do it and let us know the (hopefully positive) outcome
 

caveman

Member
Location
East Sussex.
If you sit down in the middle of the field, the cattle, being curious to things out of the ordinary, will come and have a good ol' sniff around you. When they do, grab one by pinching it by the nostrils and lead it out of the field to where you want it.
Repeat 24 times.
Job done.
 

Badshot

Member
Innovate UK
Location
Kent
If you sit down in the middle of the field, the cattle, being curious to things out of the ordinary, will come and have a good ol' sniff around you. When they do, grab one by pinching it by the nostrils and lead it out of the field to where you want it.
Repeat 24 times.
Job done.
I would really like to see a video of you doing that(y)
 

Daveh

Member
Location
Oxon
Hello there - I have a problem on my hands. On my father's farm in the North of England UK there is a herd of 25 limousin cattle which we cannot get out the field, back to the farm and away to market. My father is 86 has worked the farm all his life and is ready to retire. The cattle have been in the field for the last 4 years and each attempt to remove them has been a failure. We've tried everything. The field is separated from the farm by what was once a quiet road and roundabout leading to the nearest town. We've successfully moved cattle with the help of neighbouring farmers backwards and forwards over this road for many years until now. Recent building development has caused this road to become a major commuting route and is now extremely busy which might be a cause of the animals reluctance to step out of the gate and onto the tarmac. We've tried the usual methods of temptation with cake mixture, hay and a neighbour's docile cow but to no avail. The last attempt was a disaster which ended in a cattle stampede leading to 2 cars being written off and pending insurance claims. The police have now informed us that to attempt to move the animals across the road is a serious risk and should not be attempted.
Things are complicated by the age of my parents whose farm it is. The farm itself is a typical small family outfit which is coming to the end of it days as there is no one left to take over. I am the only child and have made a life for myself in the city which is about 5 hours away. Despite this I make time every three weeks or so to visit and help out with stuff.
So, a secure pen was constructed with telegraph posts and steel hurdles. A local stocksman and cattle-merchant who had witnessed all previous failed attempts confidently offered his services (in return for a generous lump sum) to take the entire job on. I jumped at the chance as my parents - experienced and fearless as they are, should not be working in a confined space with 25 excitable animals. This was 6 months ago.
It should be mentioned that the cows are actually very docile. During the winter months they are given silage every day and can be petted. True to the breed, the problems start when they sense danger and potential enclosure. After eating continuously for 6 years they have grown massive. A number of the cattle also have developed large horns with one animal's starting to ingrow. About 10 months ago one of the herd gave birth to a male calf courtesy of a neighbour's bull clearing the fence. And we have just received notification of compulsory TB testing which needs to be done (generally every 4 years..).
The stocksman has given up and has stopped answering his phone. This is hugely disappointing as we are entering the time of year when the grass has stopped growing and the cattle are becoming hungry and therefore biddable. Even if the cattle are to be persuaded to enter the pen it would be incredibly difficult and dangerous to load them onto the cattle truck.
I don't know what to do. Neither does anybody else. If the animals need to be culled then so be it although I have no idea how to go about organising such a process especially when the cattle are roaming in a large field. Maybe tranquilisation is an option but the local vet has no experience doing that to a whole herd. A few years ago the area was hit by foot and mouth disease (but thankfully not us) and thousands of animals were slaughtered by the military so I guess it can be done.
If anybody has any ideas I would love to hear them,
Thanks for reading
R
Be handy to know where you are. We used to look after some cattle for a bit of a dealer who didn't worry much about the temperament of the ones he bought. It is doable if you are patient, one bunch we had took a month of feeding in a pen made of cattle hurdles.
 

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