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Discussion in 'Agricultural Matters' started by muppet, Dec 31, 2018.
Did it do you any harm?
No, only had a positive effect; I became thicker and stopped caring and so blended in perfectly.
Released pheasants can stray a surprising distance, partridges even more so.
We shot one and it had a red ring on its leg it was released 2 years ago on a shoot 3-4mile away after abit of asking about
I think the issue is chick survival. We have all seen plenty of 'wild' hen birds with a bunch of 3-4 day old chicks running after her. Anyone seen a hen bird with a bunch of 3-4 week old chicks that often? I think they pretty much get hoovered up by fox / badger / mink etc.
Yes, that is true. A lot of work goes on that is not only beneficial to pheasants but other species too.
It came fromThe Pirbright Institute dirty water system.
Seems they didnt learn from a previous poor hygeine mistake....as in 1967 FMD escaped from there as well, through the ventilation system
There's an interesting thing called 'social learning' (though the animal behaviourists have another name for it). Some clever fellow in France trapped up the spare wild partridge males that would come around the laying pens and pop them in with a young covey. When release time came, the old bird would teach the youngsters all about predators, what to eat, where to get shelter, etc. The breeder got better establishment of reared birds.
They don't learn much about life in the wild inside a brooder.
This certainly applies to grey partridge. The chick feeding behaviour is not innate, so released greys really fudge up wild bird breeding.
Its not just my home village, can't ever recall any organised shoots in any of the adjacent ones either, the area was traditionally smallish farms generally either owner occupied or rented from the County Council, so no estates with landed gentry releasing pheasants.
Don't they just!
These big shoots are populating the wider countryside with game birds so numerous smaller farm shoots kill more than they release or often don’t release any but shoot wanderers from big shoot up the road. Farm shoots often living on back of big nearby releases which is all to the good.
67 was before my time but it was first found at a relations farm not too far from here, and that’s an awful long way from .Pirbright.
Bought some pheasant breasts from Waitrose with not a pellet in them, ditto pigeon breasts - do they use a metal detector too and remove shot?
Im a keen shooting man, I would suggest care be sought if the birds are fed to the pigs.
What can happen on commercial shoots ( which I completely disagree with incidentally ), is that as the guns are paying say £35/bird to shoot them, the keeper will continue to medicate the birds all the way through to maintain there health and ensure plenty of birds from a cash perspective BUT, the birds cannot be consumed with the medication in there system so they are incinerated, completely wrong and not good press for the rural / countryside community as a whole.
As a side note, im actively looking for someland where I can buy permission for pest control for me and my 7yr old boy. We offer complete respect for land and owner, we are insured. Im a business director aged 37, we are a respectful normal family who simply enjoy countryside pursuits, we do eat all quarry ( excl Rats and Foxes of course ). Thanks
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That's interesting. What medication would that be?
Multivits / antibiotics etc, added to pellets / water, there are a stack of ones used and various trade names, not unlike the medication we may use. In all fairness, im not an expert on meds nor keepering to be fair, but I have read with interest the bad press it has given the shooting community and sadly fuelled anti hunting arguments. Shoots on average get about a 30% return on what we release. Hope that helps.
Steady on there @Shooting Builder are you sure of your facts because what you are alleging could have serious implications.
Pheasants in season are fed on wheat, not pellets. I do not know of ANYONE medicating it with anti biotics. Likewise once out of the release pens birds source water from anywhere, medicating it at that point is pointless.
Sometimes a little knowledge is dangerous
Reports say that that one was caused by legally imported Argentinian lamb ?
The 2000 outbreak report concluded that its source was most likely illegally imported African meat ….it was a bit easier to blame a pig farmer for that one and ban swill feeding though.iguess.
all the shoots I know feed wheat from mid September or earlier
pellets ar too expensive to feed to pheasants and medicated need a vets prescription to be purchased