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and timothy is quite good.Don't do well on water logged soils
Birdsfoot Trefoil , Cocksfoot Festuloliums, Aliska Clovers are a few that do
and timothy is quite good.Don't do well on water logged soils
Birdsfoot Trefoil , Cocksfoot Festuloliums, Aliska Clovers are a few that do
It will surprisingly grow, I chucked in a bit to see what happens (please it helps to hit the gs4 requirements) and its definitely thereLucerne in a mix?
Can't see that even getting established with even a small amount of competition, but I maybe wrong.
This pisses me off as well, same with hedges, you get paid (very well!) for repairing or putting up hedges but for those of us who maintain and look after our hedges theres no payment for that!And dont get me started on GS4 Cant get paid for it on organic registered land there for if you're already doing something you don't get rewarded!
Overgrazing will kill it ,the grazing veraties have a lower crown but still have to be carefullthere are now, so called grazing lucerne varieties, how good they are, no idea. Having grown lucerne here, in some of the driest ground, it grows well, bugger when l ploughed it up, roots were worse than couch, took 2 or 3 years to completely die out, in the following grass ley, so some persistence, they use it for grazing mixes, in the states. Might have been tempted this autumn, massive change for us, very little need to reseed, just 2 small blocks.
Back onto chicory, will post a pic, of how quickly it recovers from grazing, quite impressive.
That looks really good.Why would being organic effect the amount of clover you use , just cut this ,I have fields that are full of white clover
Sheep farmers in particular will ask for extra white clover and the cost of Nitrogen is pushing more to go that way View attachment 982002
On our river bottom paddocks that flood most years chicory will get root rot if it is under anaerobic conditions for more than 30 days during the winter. A flood that comes and goes in a weeks time, most chicory cultivars will persist. I would at least try 1 kg/ha and see how that does. You could also plant a handful of seeds out there next spring in a low spot and see how it does over the winter in 2022 - 2023. Our genetic base is Puna II. Probably not the best for dairy cows as it could cause milk taint if the cows were consuming high concentrations of it in their rations.very dry. But full on flood during the winter
Depends on the mix and purpose, but between 800 and 1200 grams per hectare is what we usually mix for the more diverse mixes. So that's ½kg per acre at the top end.P
How much would you say is the correct amount, Plantain don't do as well here , I put in a diverse mix of clover and use Tertraploud Grass so it's not as dense in the bottom
The main thing I've learnt is not to go near a field with Herbs until the weeds are sorted ,especially Docks
Fine, IF you let them grow back properly.How do these herbal leys tolerate wet ground?
Thanks that's very helpfulFine, IF you let them grow back properly.
You really need to let the tap roots grow back between grazings as they aren't heading deep for moisture, and when moisture isn't limiting then it's difficult to give fields that time.
As above chicory is easy to kill if you let stock roam on the grazed stuff, because it doesn't appreciate crown damage and will rot off. Plantain rapidly takes off after grazing whether hot, dry, wet or cold
Possibly the best bet is to just stitch a few different species somewhere and see what grows on your place, under your management - costs are high enough without sowing a whole heap of stuff that doesn't grow, or soon falls over.
Alot of these deeper rooters won't root deep if there's a pan, or high aluminium creating a "chemical pan", so the results will vary from place to place
could be that rotational grazing, as in on/off, doesn't affect them so badly as in, field grazing- grazing whole field, then move.Fine, IF you let them grow back properly.
You really need to let the tap roots grow back between grazings as they aren't heading deep for moisture, and when moisture isn't limiting then it's difficult to give fields that time.
As above chicory is easy to kill if you let stock roam on the grazed stuff, because it doesn't appreciate crown damage and will rot off. Plantain rapidly takes off after grazing whether hot, dry, wet or cold
Possibly the best bet is to just stitch a few different species somewhere and see what grows on your place, under your management - costs are high enough without sowing a whole heap of stuff that doesn't grow, or soon falls over.
Alot of these deeper rooters won't root deep if there's a pan, or high aluminium creating a "chemical pan", so the results will vary from place to place
Birds foot trefoil and cocksfoot on waterlogged soils???Don't do well on water logged soils
Birdsfoot Trefoil , Cocksfoot Festuloliums, Aliska Clovers are a few that do
Ot floods in winter but is extremely dry in summerBirds foot trefoil and cocksfoot on waterlogged soils???
Where did you read that Derek?
Apart from the blue flowers! Don't look anything like or grow like a daisy !Don't know if they are related, similar growth habits and they both go woody
our cows really like chicory, watched one actively seeking out chicory, in preference to grass. We have put odd handfuls in with fert, for some fields, there are now odd plants, all over the farm, even those fields not targeted. That has suprised us, no need for a proper seed bed, to establish it, it's like a weed, but a useful one. The obvious use, of herbs, is the long taproot, for those that have them, giving growth in a dry time, bringing up minerals, and breaking through minor pans.Apart from the blue flowers! Don't look anything like or grow like a daisy !
I wouldn't want more than the odd field for grazing .