Hoeing Cereals

[farmerfred86]

The way my bare pea land is pulling up, I would be amazed if shaded ground would now.

could do with your hoe 2 days before you can go, got some brome in barley on sand.

Did your horsch demo ever turn up?

 

[Huntstreet]

I was meant to get a demo from Horsch as well as the Claydon but the weather has been rubbish when Horsch wanted to come out in March. The problem I see with the Horsch is that they don't do an 8m version, and they are expensive compared to the Claydon. I'm still keen to see one though.

 

[Banana Bar]

Did your horsch demo ever turn up?

Yes it did, worked well on the sand. Would have been too wet on 99% of what we farm. Biggest problem we encountered was that the camera couldn’t identify the rows when the wind got up, definitely a big issue.

BB

 

[farmerfred86]

Interesting. The Steketee hoe uses their own developed camera which sounds like it may be better.

 

[alomy75]

Interesting. The Steketee hoe uses their own developed camera which sounds like it may be better.

Really? I thought the steketee one was a version of the claas one working on height differential? May have confused that with another make. When we ran a garford we never had a situation where we ran out of camera ability. It’s their bread and butter so should work in most situations. Robydome makes theirs I think. I’ve read somewhere Robydome also now make someone else’s camera but again i can’t remember who. Not a lot of help am I

 

[farmerfred86]

Really? I thought the steketee one was a version of the claas one working on height differential? May have confused that with another make. When we ran a garford we never had a situation where we ran out of camera ability. It’s their bread and butter so should work in most situations. Robydome makes theirs I think. I’ve read somewhere Robydome also now make someone else’s camera but again i can’t remember who. Not a lot of help am I

Yes... nearly all makes seem to use the CLAAS camera which is clearly very good but the Lemken/Steketee hoe uses there own developed camera. "They say" that it doesn't suffer from sunrise/set issues and also appears to work better using crop height and colour. The following harrows look a useful addition too.

 

[Banana Bar]

Yes... nearly all makes seem to use the CLAAS camera which is clearly very good but the Lemken/Steketee hoe uses there own developed camera. "They say" that it doesn't suffer from sunrise/set issues and also appears to work better using crop height and colour. The following harrows look a useful addition too.

The problem came from the barley being at a height that when the wind blew it hid any row distinction. I struggle to see how any camera will cope with this.

 

[ajd132]

The problem came from the barley being at a height that when the wind blew it hid any row distinction. I struggle to see how any camera will cope with this.

When we used the claydon this year it was a month later than would have been ideal and was really hard to see the rows properly.
wet springs render hoeing pretty difficult and show how you need a lot of capacity. I reckon there’s been 5 or 6 days you could hoe this spring since the rain started.

 

[Will7]

We have taken on some new land which has a terrible bg problem. So in a blind panic I bough this and this is the result after some modification. The row in the middle was missed as a “control”. My driver was superb driving by eye for runs of up to 1000m. Sadly in places it has not done quite enough

 

[warksfarmer]

@ajd132 is your machine the CS?

I’ve seen one without cameras crossing wheat doing a good job without pulling wheat out amazingly. There’s a video doing the rounds on Twitter.

 

[ajd132]

@ajd132 is your machine the CS?

I’ve seen one without cameras crossing wheat doing a good job without pulling wheat out amazingly. There’s a video doing the rounds on Twitter.

I just have a claydon terra blade at the moment which is ok the front of a tractor and we drive it by eye. It works very well and have been using it for a few years now so we have an order in for a Horsch one which is bigger with more output.
it is very condition dependant though with really short windows of use.

 

[warksfarmer]

I just have a claydon terra blade at the moment which is ok the front of a tractor and we drive it by eye. It works very well and have been using it for a few years now so we have an order in for a Horsch one which is bigger with more output.
it is very condition dependant though with really short windows of use.

Sorry not CS its a cura ST

Cura 6-15 ST - Harrows - Hybrid Farming | HORSCH

HORSCH Cura ST 6-15: Excels due to acreage performance and stability, Sturdy and at the same time compact design, Precision in most different conditions, Simple handling, The field of application ranges from very light harrowing in small crops to the aggressive breaking of crusted soils

www.horsch.com

 

[ajd132]

Sorry not CS its a cura ST

Cura 6-15 ST - Harrows - Hybrid Farming | HORSCH

HORSCH Cura ST 6-15: Excels due to acreage performance and stability, Sturdy and at the same time compact design, Precision in most different conditions, Simple handling, The field of application ranges from very light harrowing in small crops to the aggressive breaking of crusted soils

www.horsch.com

No it’s the transformer which is an inter row one.
I did try a thing like the cure a while ago but it didn’t work very well for us. I think our land goes too hard on the surface when it dries.

 

[warksfarmer]

No it’s the transformer which is an inter row one.
I did try a thing like the cure a while ago but it didn’t work very well for us. I think our land goes too hard on the surface when it dries.

The video of the cura was running diagonal across the rows which I found surprising. Looks a bit like a heavy duty Opico grass Harrow which typically I sold last year never thinking of trying it but probably wouldn’t have worked due to high Mag levels which sets soil I find.

 

[ajd132]

The video of the cura was running diagonal across the rows which I found surprising. Looks a bit like a heavy duty Opico grass Harrow which typically I sold last year never thinking of trying it but probably wouldn’t have worked due to high Mag levels which sets soil I find.

Yes it was an opico grass harrow that I tried a while ago but it didn’t work

 

[Wombat]

Really? I thought the steketee one was a version of the claas one working on height differential? May have confused that with another make. When we ran a garford we never had a situation where we ran out of camera ability. It’s their bread and butter so should work in most situations. Robydome makes theirs I think. I’ve read somewhere Robydome also now make someone else’s camera but again i can’t remember who. Not a lot of help am I

Nick and Tony did most of the Garford stuff algorithms and sensing

Home – Tillett and Hague Technology Ltd

 

[alomy75]

Nick and Tony did most of the Garford stuff algorithms and sensing

Home – Tillett and Hague Technology Ltd

Of course; my apologies. Insert Tillet and Hague instead of Robydome. Mind fart

 

[farmerfred86]

We have taken on some new land which has a terrible bg problem. So in a blind panic I bough this and this is the result after some modification. The row in the middle was missed as a “control”. My driver was superb driving by eye for runs of up to 1000m. Sadly in places it has not done quite enough

Looks to have done a very good job. We've struggled to get good results this year but we've been pushing our luck in difficult conditions because timings were an issue.

 

[Brisel]

Since seeing the Terrablade at Groundswell, I'm warming to the concept. 6m Mzuri iPass drill on 25 cm row widths. No RTK, so will have to be manually steered.

What are operators' experiences on brashy soils please? Cotswolds or Lincolnshire Heathland.

Any weed flushes afterwards that require a follow up herbicide? I used to get another flush, usually fat hen, following beet hoeing but this is on wider rows & later in the year.

 

[Heathland]

@Brisel
I might have a go at fabricating one in the winter,that yellow paint is getting up there with the green and yellow paint
I can see it being handy for my blackgrass trail areas
Going to need a 6m one