Hoggs dying

[Raider112]

Been buying Cheviot Hoggs the last 3 weeks but we've had 5 died. We'll probably dose next week as we move them to fresh grazing as we normally do, should we start doing them sooner or is the reason more likely to be weather related or some other reason?

 

[spark_28]

Where are they coming from and going to? Have they been heptivaced?

 

[rancher]

I'd be more suspscious of something clostridial, have you not PM'd one.

Spark, there's another one too that heptavac doesn't cover called something like sardellii.
Lost a few with it a couple years ago including a €1400 ram

 

[jemski]

Worm counts are sky high at the mo! Have they been wormed at all?

 

[cheviot53]

Without a pm ( even a basic on farm one will tell if the liver / kidneys / lungs are ok ) and a FEC , then it could be many things plus if you have no history of treatments . ASSUME no clostridail vaccine no fluke treatment no worm treatment and treat accordingly

 

[Wooly]

Been buying Cheviot Hoggs the last 3 weeks but we've had 5 died. We'll probably dose next week as we move them to fresh grazing as we normally do, should we start doing them sooner or is the reason more likely to be weather related or some other reason?

If 5 have died and it is worms........then get them wormed tomorrow, not next week !!

If you don't know why they are dying then get a pm done. Don't rule out pasteurella. The stress of moving them can
bring it on.

 

[Raider112]

If 5 have died and it is worms........then get them wormed tomorrow, not next week !!

If you don't know why they are dying then get a pm done. Don't rule out pasteurella. The stress of moving them can
bring it on.

Often get the odd one soon after arrival and usually put it down to pasteurella, just 2 today that set alarm bells ringing.

 

[kfpben]

5 out of how many? If it's 30 you have a problem.

If it's out of 2000 it could just be the stress of transport etc.

I would definitely heptavac. Did you quarantine drench?

 

[Raider112]

Thanks for the replies so far, maybe need a post mortem.

 

[GTB]

Thanks for the replies so far, maybe need a post mortem.

yes, it's a no brainer really.

 

[sandywil90]

Id be eager to get a PM done. Then assess from there really.
If your buying store lambs in, profits are going to be marginal so you'll need to cover all basis on animal health really.
Id be inclined to treat with ovivac or heptavac p to cover clostridial.
Fluke & worm, scab and a shot of Trace elements for good measure should ensure a healthy flock!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Your first loss is your best loss

 

[pine_guy]

Also you shouldn't worm when you move them, that's bad practice for resistance. Worm a few days after movie so the new pasture is infected with both resistant and non resistant eggs.

 

[Al R]

Also you shouldn't worm when you move them, that's bad practice for resistance. Worm a few days after movie so the new pasture is infected with both resistant and non resistant eggs.

I would go on this but most people I know buy stores will dectomax, fluke, worm and trace element in the pen at the Mart before their on the lorry heading home.

 

[aangus]

Been buying Cheviot Hoggs the last 3 weeks but we've had 5 died. We'll probably dose next week as we move them to fresh grazing as we normally do, should we start doing them sooner or is the reason more likely to be weather related or some other reason?

Ovivac P plus ASAP

 

[Downton_shep]

Also you shouldn't worm when you move them, that's bad practice for resistance. Worm a few days after movie so the new pasture is infected with both resistant and non resistant eggs.

Not for quarantining new sheep

 

[neilo]

Not for quarantining new sheep

Agreed, but I wouldn’t have them on the farm, dropping Lord knows what, then worm them as they move to clean pasture. Zolvix before loading/on arrival and pen somewhere to empty out where they won’t cause any issues.

That’s all assuming the OP has their own sheep on the holding to consider of course. Much less of an issue if there’s nothing to contaminate on farm.

 

[Weasel]

Fluke

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Fluke

Could be acute fluke with all the wet like...Pm is first port of call

 

[Poorbuthappy]

I would go on this but most people I know buy stores will dectomax, fluke, worm and trace element in the pen at the Mart before their on the lorry heading home.

That's correct for a quarantine procedure. They should then be turned onto dirty pasture at home but not treated when moving onto 'clean' ground once home.