Holstein Bulls

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Commend heifers looking the part.

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

Been offered some cogent twist sexed worth using or not?

 

[dinderleat]

Been offered some cogent twist sexed worth using or not?

No, far better bulls available

 

[Shebb90]

Been offered some cogent twist sexed worth using or not?

How much? I used him last year again. Got some lovely cows by him, wouldn't normally go and use a old bull again but I like the cows by him a lot.

 

[Shebb90]

No far better bulls available

Agree but but proven?

 

[dinderleat]

Agree but but proven?

Proven is irrelevant now

 

[Shebb90]

Proven is irrelevant now

Don't totally agree with that.... Look at how many bulls theses days are genomic out of genomic and with no cows milking on the ground, I have had this conversation with bull reps and even they are agreeing with me. Don't get me wrong I use genomic bulls but I think you got be a bit care full, I always think about how many genomic bulls over the years that never made it or when they did have a prove I wouldn't of used them, I do realize technology has come on since then.

 

[dinderleat]

Don't totally agree with that.... Look at how many bulls theses days are genomic out of genomic and with no cows milking on the ground, I have had this conversation with bull reps and even they are agreeing with me. Don't get me wrong I use genomic bulls but I think you got be a bit care full, I always think about how many genomic bulls over the years that never made it or when they did have a prove I wouldn't of used them, I do realize technology has come on since then.

As long as you don’t over use one bull the averages will always work out better. I use 4 bulls on a mating program and will update and change those bulls regularly.

 

[Shebb90]

As long as you don’t over use one bull the averages will always work out better. I use 4 bulls on a mating program and will update and change those bulls regularly.

What mating program do you use?

 

[dinderleat]

What mating program do you use?

It’s only a genus one to stop inbreeding get 2 choices then I pick which one

 

[More to life]

Don't totally agree with that.... Look at how many bulls theses days are genomic out of genomic and with no cows milking on the ground, I have had this conversation with bull reps and even they are agreeing with me. Don't get me wrong I use genomic bulls but I think you got be a bit care full, I always think about how many genomic bulls over the years that never made it or when they did have a prove I wouldn't of used them, I do realize technology has come on since then.

If you trust one genomic proof you have to trust them all in the knowledge there 65% reliable. As @dinderleat says use a team and you will be fine don’t get stressed if bulls don’t make it back on sale doesn’t mean they have failed.

 

[Barmyfarmer]

I used a genomic bull last year, his proof is more typey than I would normally look at, but the calves are absolutely stunning, nearly jet black and very strong, bull no longer advertised but a few straws still knocking around, should I have some more?

 

[Stuart1]

I always tend to use one proven bull to make me feel that I’m almost guaranteed to get what I’m looking. Will use 2-3 genomic bulls along with the one proven. I’m using Mardi-Gras this year as the proven bull, no calves as of yet from from, has anyone any milking?

 

[mixed farm]

We use Fever lovely cows milked like trains but just went to big for a system. The last one is going this week. After that we used Lauralhill Classic from genus. Some of the best cows I’ve dealt with are by him. Yes I am only 25. Now there MySpace from Semex and Benton from genus. We did use a Semex bull called Montreal. They weren’t the best hiefers. I’m just starting to calve Nafta and Titan hiefers of cogent now. But not been milking long enough to nudge them.

How are the titan heifers going for you?

 

[mixed farm]

I used Alex on strong cows like crest so disappointed TBH l will post a couple of pictures when they settle a bit hopefully they will thrive after calving.

Going back over the thread, how did the alex heifers get on?

 

[mixed farm]

Last question of the evening, yamasaka and perseus? How are they looking or any milking yet?

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Be serving a few Perseus daughters this back end, were big enough to serve in July probably.
Calved a few to Yamaska this year, absolute stonking calves.

 

[mixed farm]

Be serving a few Perseus daughters this back end, were big enough to serve in July probably.
Calved a few to Yamaska this year, absolute stonking calves.

Is stonking a good or a bad thing??

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Is stonking a good or a bad thing??

Not heard of that before?
If something is stonking along its doing well. That's how I use it anyway.

I will see if I can grab a pic after my salad sandwich

 

[buffalo_soldier]

I forgot, calves are the worst to photograph
Anyhow that pen is doing over a kilo a day.