Horrific Dog Attack (Very Graphic)

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Other half seen the pics on faceache where dog owners are saying it a photoshopped picture!
Even with evidence its all lies?
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
I never seen anything like it, looks more like gun shot wounds to me, dogs natural instinct is to take them down by the throat. :scratchhead:

See my above comments re dogs & a neighbours cow

She was horned & they had completely chewed the horns right back to her skull
Chewed / tore the calf out of her back end.
Bull terrier & other " lugging " type dogs will always go for the face / grab the nose. They were used here to catch wild cattle by pulling them down to the ground by the nose . . .
Pig dogs go for the face / ears to pull down wild boar . . .
I had a mastiff cross that would kill foxes by grabbing them across the chest with his mouth & crushing / shaking them
Dogs don't just only go for the throat, they go for what is vulnerable, desirable or achievable
How they do it also varies depending if they are solo, a couple of dogs, or in a pack

ANY & ALL breeds of dog are capable of killing & attacking, in a variety of ways.
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
See my above comments re dogs & a neighbours cow

She was horned & they had completely chewed the horns right back to her skull
Chewed / tore the calf out of her back end.
Bull terrier & other " lugging " type dogs will always go for the face / grab the nose. They were used here to catch wild cattle by pulling them down to the ground by the nose . . .
Pig dogs go for the face / ears to pull down wild boar . . .
I had a mastiff cross that would kill foxes by grabbing them across the chest with his mouth & crushing / shaking them
Dogs don't just only go for the throat, they go for what is vulnerable, desirable or achievable
How they do it also varies depending if they are solo, a couple of dogs, or in a pack

ANY & ALL breeds of dog are capable of killing & attacking, in a variety of ways.
I take your point, but why are the hoggs still alive? surly a bull mastiff or bull terrier type would kill the animal, the animals shown are standing on there feet, not normal, i am very puzzled by this.
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
I take your point, but why are the hoggs still alive? surly a bull mastiff or bull terrier type would kill the animal, the animals shown are standing on there feet, not normal, i am very puzzled by this.
To be honest, I haven't looked at the original pic so can't really comment

I see enough bad sh!t, I chose not to open the link . . .
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
See my above comments re dogs & a neighbours cow

She was horned & they had completely chewed the horns right back to her skull
Chewed / tore the calf out of her back end.
Bull terrier & other " lugging " type dogs will always go for the face / grab the nose. They were used here to catch wild cattle by pulling them down to the ground by the nose . . .
Pig dogs go for the face / ears to pull down wild boar . . .
I had a mastiff cross that would kill foxes by grabbing them across the chest with his mouth & crushing / shaking them
Dogs don't just only go for the throat, they go for what is vulnerable, desirable or achievable
How they do it also varies depending if they are solo, a couple of dogs, or in a pack

ANY & ALL breeds of dog are capable of killing & attacking, in a variety of ways.

Totally agree. Sadly, in the past I have been a witness to similar attacks but today we live in a soft sheltered society where it is easier to say, "That couldn't happen!". It can and it does.

Animals do what works for them. If a dog has found it can kill by taking hold of the head (or whatever) and it works, that's what it will do the next time. That is how police dogs are trained to attack a padded sleeve. It can even be a problem sometimes training them to grip elsewhere which could be embarrassing if the criminal doesn't happen to be wearing one!:D
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I take your point, but why are the hoggs still alive? surly a bull mastiff or bull terrier type would kill the animal, the animals shown are standing on there feet, not normal, i am very puzzled by this.

It takes practice and experience for a predator to learn how to kill. My guess is the owner has had fun teasing these dogs with a rag or similar and encouraging them to grip and pull.

Pet owners play with their dogs getting them to chase a ball, then wonder why they chase livestock. They never think to teach an instant response to "Leave!", "Down" or "Sit", and to come to call, which are the brakes and steering.
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
It takes practice and experience for a predator to learn how to kill. My guess is the owner has had fun teasing these dogs with a rag or similar and encouraging them to grip and pull.

Pet owners play with their dogs getting them to chase a ball, then wonder why they chase livestock. They never think to teach an instant response to "Leave!", "Down" or "Sit", and to come to call, which are the brakes and steering.
So, do you think these particular lambs have been chased? Cause i don,t, I don,t think they would be standing if they had. Tell me what happens to any animal that,s been chased in the wild, say a cheetah or lion.
 
licence dogs I have dogs myself but there trained with a 1000 acres to play on
To many people with no time for dogs are buying dogs it would be heartbreaking to no what % don’t get let out more than 1 time a day ect in this country. It’s unreal how many people I see struggleing to hold onto the lead with the dogs barking at other dogs cars ect as much as I love them there overpopulated spread disease and bite stuff
 

SLA

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Some sheep will stand at bay, all a dog can get is its face, big dog latches onto face and shakes and they don't look to be particularly big hoggs.
Having found sheep the badgers have had there is nothing left, sure they'd dig down and eat them alive.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Other half seen the pics on faceache where dog owners are saying it a photoshopped picture!
Even with evidence its all lies?
My first reaction was photo shop, I looked at the first few pictures but could get no further. The pictures are truly some of the most horrific I have ever seen.
I am not saying photo shop but very much hope the sheep were Subject to forensic analysis to see what was to blame.
Then the link and results should be posted to every MP.
I say the link because I would imagine that you could create a negative reaction posting actual pictures, from some groups.
 

General-Lee

Member
Location
Devon
I say the link because I would imagine that you could create a negative reaction posting actual pictures, from some groups.
Yeah difficult thing putting it on Facebook we have a lot of dog walkers. No amount of signs or asking/telling off seems to make much difference to the average Joe let alone someone gives zero fecks whether they dog is cr@pping, hundred yards ahead, out of control. They aren’t gonna see these pics and have a change of heart.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Sorry to say the solution is probably to shoot a few and make sure it is well publicised. But always do so within the law.

I'm a dog lover too and would be lost without one. But I always start with the expectation that young dogs will want to run after sheep, which is just the start before it escalates into something more serious. Before that happens, I get them trained and don't consider that anywhere near complete until I can drop them instantly at 200 yards (plus a lot more). Even then. I would never trust my dogs loose unless under supervision and that means within sight.
 

JohnD

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Location
Lancashire
Had something very similar hear in Lancashire a few weeks back.

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