How far off is harvest?

radar

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Mixed Farmer
Can you still glyphosate winter barley? Mine will need it as there's lots of green and lots of fit stuff and more wheat than I'd like in amongst it.

Won't be malting either.

Worst mess I've ever seen due to burnt off sandy field.

By contrast the spring barley looks good.
Yes - and combines much quicker, drier and dustier than without
 

Jon 3085

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Location
Worcester, UK
Normal start date here, around the 20th,amazed how its hung on in the heat .
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How do you deal with glyphosate timings when there are small side tillers that are a foot below the main canopy in some of the thinner areas? These are a way behind everything else and the crop is leaning ominously in places. Will glyphosate get these whilst green and mean they be small and shrivelled such that they'll blow out the back?

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Green oak

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Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
How do you deal with glyphosate timings when there are small side tillers that are a foot below the main canopy in some of the thinner areas? These are a way behind everything else and the crop is leaning ominously in places. Will glyphosate get these whilst green and mean they be small and shrivelled such that they'll blow out the back?

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I wouldn't worry about glyphosate. Combining on a nice day barley can get the 13% the greens look bad in the sample but after conditioning with air the moisture of the greens is sucked out by the dry. I normally combine headlands in stages a bit at a time to mix in the heap. I never understand why headlands are done first and put at the back of the shed. That's just my opinion.
 
I wouldn't worry about glyphosate. Combining on a nice day barley can get the 13% the greens look bad in the sample but after conditioning with air the moisture of the greens is sucked out by the dry. I normally combine headlands in stages a bit at a time to mix in the heap. I never understand why headlands are done first and put at the back of the shed. That's just my opinion.

I might just run round the headlands with glyphosate. Often will do as you say and cut headland gradually. Depends on ground conditions and cultivation history though. If the field is going to be direct drilled, not cutting headlands first leaves a lot of trailer wheelings all over the place which I don't like.
 

tw15

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Location
DORSET
Lets all if we can use glyphosphate as the last resort on cereals ( ITS ON THIN ICE AS IT IS) . A few greens up tramlines soon get well mixed up in the dry stuff and shrivel up . If you cut a bit with fair amount of green spread it thinly on the drying floor and tip the dry stuff on top don't put it at the back of the shed.
Patience don't come in a can nor does it come with a bill . Do what your grandfather used to say when you think its fit go away for a week and it will be fit when you get back.
 
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Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
How do you deal with glyphosate timings when there are small side tillers that are a foot below the main canopy in some of the thinner areas? These are a way behind everything else and the crop is leaning ominously in places. Will glyphosate get these whilst green and mean they be small and shrivelled such that they'll blow out the back?

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If you leave them as long as possible they soon get nearly ripe, they wont take anything like as long as the main crop has taken, mixed in they will be absorbed and sort of ripen in the heap, killing them stops this process.
 

Longneck

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Mixed Farmer
I have osr that is about ready for dedication and w barley that looks about two weeks away.

Got a weeks holiday with the family booked for 9th July (first time we've done that) and a new grain store that still is about 4 weeks away from completion. [emoji33]

I'm (at the moment) totally relaxed about it. The osr that needs to go in the new store has had pod stick on and will be left until its ready and the w barley will be done while I'm away if it needs!! [emoji41][emoji41]

Life's too short.......
 

Longneck

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Mixed Farmer
My job is normally grain cart, grain store and everything other than combine driver but this is the first year I will be able to delegate.
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Why anyone wants to roundup winter barley is beyond me. It's only June ffs:banghead:

Yes we will have to finish osr off up here with glyphosate or we will be cutting it at 30% in October but everything else can ripen on its own.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
When the ground is as dry as it is here, glyphosate takes forever to kill OSR so we swath it.

The winter barley has everything in it from dead shrivelled heads killed by drought to green tiller regrowth and green volunteer wheat and weeds that are making the most of the drought thinned stand, so it will have glyphosate at cost £xx. It's either that or wait till it's all broken down waiting for the last bit to ripen losing £xxx heads on the floor or go earlier to save the good stuff and put the lot through the dryer at £xxx.

It's a considered calculation, not routine usage and first year I have used glyphosate in barley in about 10 years.
 

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