How is Brexit for you?

[Raider112]

Here we are again. Page 25 of a thread and yet another cringe worthy whinge-fest about Brexit.
Two sides of jerks that think their problems will be cured by rudely knocking the hell out of each other.
Grow up FFS!

All the Brexit threads should be locked as debate goes out the window, a couple are too triggered and aren't interested in any other opinion but their own.

 

[melted welly]

I buy bottled water. I like the different tasting waters from around the world. I'm guessing that your pal was drinking Voss, which is nice enough but not my favourite. Far less environmental damage than making and then shipping wine or beer or indeed fruit juices - I presume you don't drink anything apart from tap water from wherever you are at the time?

I don’t buy bottled water as I think it’s a waste of money and no, I don’t generally drink anything other than what comes out the tap at home which I run through a filter jug in the fridge.

May have occasional beer or cider, if out for a meal, don’t buy soft drinks or fruit juice except as a treat for the kids and the one that can, has milk.

Maybe we’ve just got simple tastes for this modern world of plenty we live in.

 

[Cowabunga]

If there's any shite in the market it's almost guaranteed to emanate from Europe , they can't lace our boot in food standards

Well now, that is a bold statement! Can't see how you could substantiate it. The Germans dot their i's and cross their t's with at least as much diligence as we do. So do the Dutch and even the French when it suits them. But again you miss the point, which is that since we are no longer in that club which allowed free trade in goods and services with no hinderance, we now revert to being a 'third country' and subject to all the rules and regulations, both ways, with Europe as we have had with other third countries worldwide. While there is limited free trade as agreed, there are also rules and restriction which we have to abide by if we want that trade. This was all carefully explained beforehand, although our actual rulers, the ERG and a certain Mr Farage lied their way through and many people never saw through the forest of deception that were fed.

UK border control has always been far more lax than most other countries, even inside the EU, but now we have to get used to being that third country that we [you not me] voted for. No point blaming the EU. You were warned but chose to ignore it. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and Johnson's government for all its blather over the last four years, is still almost totally unprepared for it.

Does "we hold all the cards" and "they need us more than we need them" still sound credible? It sounded arrogant and ridiculous then and sounds even more absurd today doesn't it.

 

[bobk]

With friends and family on both sides of the Irish boarder I can tell you there really are no words to describe what a total bigoted dick you are to think your comment is in any way acceptable. Grow up.

What a pathetic reply ,

 

[Cowabunga]

All the Brexit threads should be locked as debate goes out the window, a couple are too triggered and aren't interested in any other opinion but their own.

If you can't hold up in a debate, don't keep taking part. I asked you this, to which I have had no answer yet

Just what rules have the EU broken to justify that? It is the UK that cannot meet the agreed rules. Give me an example, because I'd love to know and have some large calibre ammunition to justify the UK's stance.

You also claimed that the UK should have some favoured status due to the war. For goodness' sake we bombed the sh!t out of many of these countries apart from anything else. To bring the Second World War into this issue is, how shall I put it, inappropriate.

 

[BrianV]

Get it into your head that they didn't do it and countries like Ireland would not have allowed them to do so. Threatening to do something and actually doing it are on a totally different level.

You might like to recheck your facts!

 

[Cowabunga]

Well if they aren't breaking the agreement by banning shellfish on a technicality do you not agree that we are entitled to ban Evian as it doesn't meet the agreed standards?

It is NOT a technicality. The rule was actually suggested and promoted to the EU by, guess who? Why the UK of course. It is a rule drafted by the UK for the EU. That was when we were part of the EU obviously and it suited us. Please educate yourself before making such mistaken assumptions.

So how precisely does Evian meet our standards? It is entirely possible that it doesn't of course, I'll give you that, because our standards may well have changed since we left the EU. So how and why do you say that it is substandard and should be banned from import. I don't drink it or any other bottled water, so on that level I couldn't care less about French water, but do care about wider trade issues that may escalate from this proposal.

 

[Tarw Coch]

You were warned about this issue way before Brexit. Even I had mentioned it several times over the last four years. Yet people, including our PM. continued to push it under the carpet or even, like you, pretend that it is not a problem. It patently is a very serious problem indeed.

The same could be said for Brexit itself, issues swept under the carpet and look where we’ve ended up

 

[Cowabunga]

You might like to recheck your facts!

You might have missed where I pasted the facts from a reference kindly provided by Bob who obviously hadn't actually read the contents properly. See post 482.

 

[bobk]

You might have missed where I pasted the facts from a reference kindly provided by Bob who obviously hadn't actually read the contents properly.

Or at all .

 

[BrianV]

You might have missed where I pasted the facts from a reference kindly provided by Bob who obviously hadn't actually read the contents properly. See post 482.

Whatever the technical details there is no denying the fact that without the intervention of the Irish leader the EU would have gone ahead with it for it's own ends showing bad faith & setting a precedent.

 

[Raider112]

It is NOT a technicality. The rule was actually suggested and promoted to the EU by, guess who? Why the UK of course. It is a rule drafted by the UK for the EU. That was when we were part of the EU obviously and it suited us. Please educate yourself before making such mistaken assumptions.

So how precisely does Evian meet our standards? It is entirely possible that it doesn't of course, I'll give you that, because our standards may well have changed since we left the EU. So how and why do you say that it is substandard and should be banned from import. I don't drink it or any other bottled water, so on that level I couldn't care less about French water, but do care about wider trade issues that may escalate from this proposal.

I have no idea why it doesn't reach the standards as it doesn't seem important enough to me to bother about but as one of the MP'S who put his name to the petition used to work in that industry I would guess that he was the one who got the ball rolling due to it not reaching the relevant standard, he would look pretty stupid if it was all in order.

 

[Raider112]

If you can't hold up in a debate, don't keep taking part. I asked you this, to which I have had no answer yet



You also claimed that the UK should have some favoured status due to the war. For goodness' sake we bombed the sh!t out of many of these countries apart from anything else. To bring the Second World War into this issue is, how shall I put it, inappropriate.

Firstly I am happy to debate but tend not to as much as I used to due to the level of anger from some and condescending attitudes from others. Secondly, I never brought the subject of wartime up, I was correcting a reply to someone who did, and he was talking about France in particular rather than Europe as a whole so to say I was the one who brought the second world war into it is, how shall I put it, inappropriate.

 

[glasshouse]

Lamb trade is flying here in France too, so I don’t think the high uk lamb price is anything to do with Farage.

Lamb price makes no sense to me, as in these Covid days our beef carcass price is just on a gradual downhill slope.

Less nz lamb getting here

 

[neilo]

Because humans are fallible to the very clearer and well funded marketing industry! Frankly Imported bottle water should be taxed similar to tobacco as an unnecessary product that is harmful to our society...

A friend is selling their parents’ house just now and the water supply there is Spring fed. The buyer’s wife commented that they would have to continue buying bottled Spring water as it wasn’t on the mains. When questioned, she said they couldn’t possibly drink water that came out of the ground.
The power of marketing.

 

[agri knives]

If there's any shite in the market it's almost guaranteed to emanate from Europe , they can't lace our boot in food standards

Yes they can I travel all Europe and the uk , and the only country to serve up shite food in restaurants happen in the uk. I’ve had the worst rubbish dinners I ever had served to me in the uk, I think the cheap food policy is having a huge effect.

 

[agri knives]

Less nz lamb getting here

There’s no lamb coming from down under due to China being short 27 million tons of meat due to the pig virus.

 

[agri knives]

A friend is selling their parents’ house just now and the water supply there is Spring fed. The buyer’s wife commented that they would have to continue buying bottled Spring water as it wasn’t on the mains. When questioned, she said they couldn’t possibly drink water that came out of the ground.
The power of marketing.

Yes , I seen water advertised as fat free water , it was selling faster than the non fat free water.

 

[farmerm]

A friend is selling their parents’ house just now and the water supply there is Spring fed. The buyer’s wife commented that they would have to continue buying bottled Spring water as it wasn’t on the mains. When questioned, she said they couldn’t possibly drink water that came out of the ground.
The power of marketing.

I bet that lady also also consumes milk from a carton not from a cow and eggs from a box not from a chicken

 

[deleted user 837354]

A friend is selling their parents’ house just now and the water supply there is Spring fed. The buyer’s wife commented that they would have to continue buying bottled Spring water as it wasn’t on the mains. When questioned, she said they couldn’t possibly drink water that came out of the ground.
The power of marketing.

FFS, I give up. Everyone needs to abandon hope now. We are doomed as a species.