how many dont scan ewes??

as I said here me and my brother are finishing farming and we have never scanned our ewes and we always seemed to manage but we did have some big singles ... surely we cant be the only one in the British isles
 

Guiggs

Member
Location
Leicestershire
as I said here me and my brother are finishing farming and we have never scanned our ewes and we always seemed to manage but we did have some big singles ... surely we cant be the only one in the British isles

My dad has never scanned his sheep ever although he will be this year for the first time, he had masses of triplets last year and ewes without enough milk so finally he's taking the plunge and doing something he hasn't before....
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
as I said here me and my brother are finishing farming and we have never scanned our ewes and we always seemed to manage but we did have some big singles ... surely we cant be the only one in the British isles

Of course scanning isn't essential, but it is a valuable management tool. It allows you to apportion food better according to need, hopefully avoiding your big singles and @Guiggs dad's underfed triplets. It also allows you to pull out any empties, rather than paying to feed them to become porkers by the end of lambing. What do all those things costs? I would suggest they will cost a lot more than the 50p/ewe scanning does in almost any flock.
But yes, most would no doubt manage without.
 

sandamho

Member
Location
Hebrides
I wish we could scan, but we're too remote to get anyone out here. That said, it's hard ground so we only get a set of triplets once in a blue moon.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I have never scanned.
I would like to but they are usually away at keep without any facilities when they would need doing. It would be a great management tool if I could separate them all in to different groups.
 

pat kcotnit

Member
Location
Oot and aboot
Have never scanned here, so you are definitely not alone.

But I am considering scanning the hill ewes - only to save a job post lambing drawing off the singles to go back to the hill.
One job we don't miss is drawing singles out of twins to go back to hill since we started scanning many years ago. Open hill gate, take them out in smallish groups to ensure they are mothered up and close the gate. Max 1hr as opposed to many hours. Check singles first at lambing time as they tend to have more problems than the twins (pure blackies). Also lamb the singles in fields that we have more problems with foxes/badgers as the ewes can defend one lamb better than two lambs.
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Stopped scanning about 15 years ago when pulling twins out of hoggs scanned as empty :banghead:

Feed adlib blocks and haylage with increasing energy values towards and during lambing.

Any ewe that gives bother that needs assisted is ear notched for cull, as are her offspring. This has got rid of the greedy ones that have a huge single, and the poor milkers.

Out of 1100 ewes I had a hand inside 22 this year, and only 8 the year before. Lambing percentage marked at 6 weeks averages 150% in bye, and 100% on the heather.



How would scanning benefit my system?
 

scholland

Member
Location
ze3
Stopped scanning about 15 years ago when pulling twins out of hoggs scanned as empty :banghead:

Feed adlib blocks and haylage with increasing energy values towards and during lambing.

Any ewe that gives bother that needs assisted is ear notched for cull, as are her offspring. This has got rid of the greedy ones that have a huge single, and the poor milkers.

Out of 1100 ewes I had a hand inside 22 this year, and only 8 the year before. Lambing percentage marked at 6 weeks averages 150% in bye, and 100% on the heather.



How would scanning benefit my system?
By cutting your single and empty ewe feeding costs.

Don't let a bad operator put you off scanning
 

irish dom

Member
Stopped scanning about 15 years ago when pulling twins out of hoggs scanned as empty :banghead:

Feed adlib blocks and haylage with increasing energy values towards and during lambing.

Any ewe that gives bother that needs assisted is ear notched for cull, as are her offspring. This has got rid of the greedy ones that have a huge single, and the poor milkers.

Out of 1100 ewes I had a hand inside 22 this year, and only 8 the year before. Lambing percentage marked at 6 weeks averages 150% in bye, and 100% on the heather.



How would scanning benefit my system?
You make strong points and it's impressive performance but lambing that kind of number without scanning would scare the sh!t out of me. But in fairness if your previous scanner was that inaccurate you are miles better off not scanning. No info is better than bad info. Honestly don't know how them guys survive doing poor work like that
 

hally

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
cumbria
I've always scanned but often thought if you accurately handled them and split into 3 groups ( and adjusted feed accordingly) 2 to 3 weeks before lambing, condition score would give a good indication of lambing % whilst sorting out those that needed extra help.
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Dont scan here , early ewes always around 160% natural service ,dont feed/ minimal feed pre lambing anyway , ram always run with the flock with marker so can see any returns of which very few It is useful on a big flock but didnt help to much on our scale .
 

ewefool

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Loch lomond
Ewes out on the hill before tupping then after scanning all singles back out until a few days before lambing all empties are culled keeps the fields for the twins makes things so much simpler only one wrong out of over two hundred last year
 

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