ollie989898
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Which gets consumed faster, the booze or the diesel?
How much should I expect to pay for earth moving
- Thread starter tr250
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Which gets consumed faster, the booze or the diesel?
Forever Fendt
Member
- Location
- Derbyshire
Paid £35 for 20 ton excavator ,£40 for volvo 30 ton dumper and £45 for cat D6N all per hour and we supply fuel and £80 each way on transport about 6 miles
Carl billings
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Cheers Kenny, op if you drop me a personal message I can send you the rates of the different size dozers
- Location
- south norfolk
How modern are these machines.there is no way you can run a 20 ton digger for the above price.im close to that for a 2.5 ton and not making a fortune either
Nick...
Forever Fendt
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- Location
- Derbyshire
The 20 ton had done 15k hours,Volvo dumper 35k hours and D6 about 15k all in good condition we put fuel in as said,Had a 13 ton here for a few jobs in the last couple of months for £24 hour plus fuel
Get one without a driver, it's far cheaper.
The basic definition of an engineering operation was outlined in case law in 1978 as "making a physical altercation to the land itself". In practical terms it is down to the local authority but as a planning consultant I would suggest contacting the council if by the relocation of of the soil you were either creating or removing a defined feature such as removing or creating a bund, filling in railway cuttings etc. I would also consider planning if the physical change would result in a change in a wide area of topography.
It is a very grey area and in practical terms it would be a case of "who would notice" or "who would it impact". If the answer is nobody then crack on but if it is going to affect or be seen by anyone then it could be reported to the council who are duty bound to investigate so it might be better to ask the question first.
I will try to find more information.
After browsing the agricultural section of the gpdo it may be that this kind of operation would come under the same category as the construction of an agricultural building on a holding so it would require prior notification and it may also contribute to the limit of the 1000 square metres.
my advice would be to put in a prior notification application and if the council come back and say that the notification is not necessary then all well and good but at least you would have covered your backside.
my advice would be to put in a prior notification application and if the council come back and say that the notification is not necessary then all well and good but at least you would have covered your backside.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
would it be worth getting a dozer with a box, you have quite a distance to move the soil.
But beware , mighty compaction!
But beware , mighty compaction!
d williams
Member
Not a good idea if the area its going is wet as he says
bobajob
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- Location
- Sw Scotland
Does it need to be as big as a D8 if the material is already loose/ been dug before?
mf298
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- Location
- Ayton, Berwickshire
wondering about this myself, rates seem very low!
d williams
Member
20 ton machine used to be £1a ton was hire rate in the 90ies in South Wales now you would get a 20 ton machine £25/hr plus fuels but machine gone from 70k to buy to 120k so f**k knows how they work rate out
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Was told years ago that the money was made when the machine was on site but not working. Eg loading lorries, but only 3 an hr, idle for 45 mins in the hr but getting paid.
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Very much. Archeology would be a big one i’m sure-here machine for a day/week, yet only an hrs work per day. Makes no odds though as the bill is being paid by someone else who doesn’t have a clue of the wasteage. If you need a machine, whether an hour or a full day....you still need the machine.
I’m sure a lot of jobs don’t quite go to plan either. Once the machines are on site it’s harder for the client to competitively screw the hire firm down when the project expands.
Must be a lot of large jobs that have quite a contingency chunk built in too, especially if subcontract.
Had quotes for a job recently-ranged from £5k to £40k!
d williams
Member
The £5k quotes may not be the cheapest
Depends how contracts drawn up.!
Have a good friend who owns a civil engineering company his qs /estimator earns him more then any machine
ollie989898
Member
I have done only minimal earthmoving work in my time, it was absolutely great fun though. I agree that it must be hard to quote for work, I think a lot of us are familiar working with an area, yards, metres or feet, but it's the volume and depth involved that would catch me out. Once you see a 20 tonne slew on the go, they tend to make dump trailers pulled by tractors look very very small real fast. And of course, the digger is there already, just go on a bit more you think and suddenly it s another half a day to move the dirt he has found. Gonna have to get me a go in one of those artic dump trucks though, they look ace.