Idiots guide to Liquid Fert

[Philip Watkins]

Pardon my ignorance could you just not buy an old trailed Chafer and use it solely for liquid N?

Yes but he's changing the sprayer anyway so looking at a dual use machine rather than running 2 machines.

 

[Clive]

BFS auto streamers are great, no messing about with disc etc, accurate and never had any scortch using them - 5 years out of our first set now and a LOT of acres, never broken one on a Bateman Contour boom

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

Yes but he's changing the sprayer anyway so looking at a dual use machine rather than running 2 machines.

Was thinking for myself in the future

 

[spikeislander]

I will keep a eye over the hedge! This is the direction I think I would like to go.
Welcome Back to the World of doing it on your own, My attempts at employment didn't last too long.

 

[SimpersTradeCounter]

Just an aside
If BFS autostreamers are what's decided be sure to give me a shout and I will endeavour to apply some TFF discount !

 

[Wheatonrotty]

Seems like this is the way to go. Now I just need to find a decent used sprayer. Think I will stick with trailed, probably look at 4000l with 36m boom. Need to have a think about tank siting and bowser.

 

[JRA]

@Wheatonrotty I'm sure @Chafer Bernie can find some suitable machines if you are interested?

 

[Wheatonrotty]

@Wheatonrotty I'm sure @Chafer Bernie can find some suitable machines if you are interested?

Yes, be interested to have a look. Been running a jd sprayer which we've got on fairly well with but certainly open to looking at other makes. The chafers I've seen certainly look well built.

 

[Wheatonrotty]

@Wheatonrotty I'm sure @Chafer Bernie can find some suitable machines if you are interested?

Yes, be interested to have a look. Been running a jd sprayer which we've got on fairly well with but certainly open to looking at other makes. The chafers I've seen certainly look well built.

 

[Panzer]

I have been using liquid N for 15 years - would agree with what has been said about logistics and accuracy - compared to a basic spinner you can be far more accurate both on rates and placement. Be aware that the application cutoff line will be obvious if your tramlines are not accurate (I have sometimes had a double dosed strip between bouts) and tapered garings at ends will either be double or nothing - there is no feathering effect that you get with a spinner. I have always used dribble bars (BFS and Chafer) - just be careful about breakage as they can hang below the boom - have had few problems with scorch.
Another advantage is zero wastage - you don't have the problem of where to put the last half bag at the end of the field - it can be pumped straight into the storage tank
I wouldn't worry about corrosion - my old Gem sprayer looks much the same for rust now as 10 years ago - I do wash it, but not obsessively!
Some years it can be expensive relative to urea - with an owned tank you are not obliged to use it every year if the price is wrong.

just seen this old post. will your Gem (fibreglass tank) take a full load of liquid fert.

 

[ewald]

My Gem tank is surviving so far with full loads - with an older sprayer check for weak chassis and tyres

 

[Feldspar]

Can't find the more modern thread on this topic. An idiots question for 10 points: Can I definitely not put 26-0-0-12 with Quintastream nozzles on wheat on a frosty morning whilst the leaves are still frosted?

 

[Steevo]

This one?

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/early-n.212366/

 

[Feldspar]

This one?

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/early-n.212366/

No, there was one that @spikeislander started on tips on avoiding scorch with the first season of liquid fert. I am in the same boat, but cannot find the thread atm.

 

[Steevo]

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?posts/4814348/

 

[Shutesy]

This one? https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/examples-of-liquid-fert-programme.173202/
Does frost not de-wax leaves a bit hence leaving them open to scorch, I'm sure I read that somewhere but I could be talking rubbish...

 

[Feldspar]

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?posts/4814348/

Thanks. Will repost there.

ETA: that was a thread hijack. Hopefully someone can answer on this thread.

 

[Feldspar]

This one? https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/examples-of-liquid-fert-programme.173202/
Does frost not de-wax leaves a bit hence leaving them open to scorch, I'm sure I read that somewhere but I could be talking rubbish...

That's my impression. I was just wondering whether any scorch at this stage is much less problematic.

 

[Timbo1080]

Your issue, in this question, is surely regarding frost on a leaf? In which case, and all other things being equal (I.e. no wind, rain or sun issues), it is the same as having dew on the leaf with a generally dry day following.....? I’m led to believe that this is a high scorch risk situation, due to the fert effectively melting the frost and covering the leaf very nicely with a uniform layer of N. As the day draws on, the water will evaporate from the leaf, leaving the liquid fert to burn the hell out of the leaf......? But I stand to be corrected. Do I get negative points for a wrong answer?

 

[Feldspar]

Your issue, in this question, is surely regarding frost on a leaf? In which case, and all other things being equal (I.e. no wind, rain or sun issues), it is the same as having dew on the leaf with a generally dry day following.....? I’m led to believe that this is a high scorch risk situation, due to the fert effectively melting the frost and covering the leaf very nicely with a uniform layer of N. As the day draws on, the water will evaporate from the leaf, leaving the liquid fert to burn the hell out of the leaf......? But I stand to be corrected. Do I get negative points for a wrong answer?

I rather suspect you may be spot on the money. Was hoping liquid would allow us to get on earlier. Still have solid for the OSR so will be able to do that perhaps this week if it freezes hard enough.