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IgA

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Is it only lleyn that have researched into this so far? Was already aware of it but read update in NSA. Says easier than taking FEC (fail to see how) and cheaper. Certainly useful knowledge for replacement & potential USP as maternal breeder. @Tim W

Are you starting to think your rash change of heart has been premature?:D

An ebv's based on FEC can only be based on a snapshot, dependient on that animal's worm burden at that particular point in time. An ebv based on IgA result will be based on the genetic ability of that sheep to combat a worm burden, regardless of when it encounters them.

In theory, and as explained to me by a Lleyn breeder participating in the trial work.....
 

scholland

Member
Location
ze3
Our local health scheme is hoping to do a research project with this. Not sure exactly what yet though.
Seems to be much less drench resistance (or knowledge of) up here so I'm hoping it will look into that and to highlight the worm resistance (if any) of the native sheep.
 

Tim W

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
As I understand it----
IgA only measures resistance to strongyles not nemo :(
IgA is more repeatable than FEC :)
Heritability is about the same (y) (marginally less for IgA?)
You don't have to take IgA samples whilst the animals have a high worm burden :)
Cost? --I am not sure of the relative costs of IgA and when I last asked (before Xmas no one wanted to commit)


Lleyn boys have done some good work on this and IMO it is one of the most important maternal traits we can measure at the moment
If you are a breeder of maternal sheep and don't record/select/breed for parasite resistance you are doing a pretty poor job (if you are a terminal sire breeder you should also be recording parasite levels so that you can make good decisions on resistance/resilience of your animals )

If you can reduce your ewes worm egg output by 50% in 2 or 3 generations (and subsequently reduce the potential lamb burden by a similar amount) then it must be worth doing?
 

George C

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bath

Man_in_black

Member
Livestock Farmer
Are you starting to think your rash change of heart has been premature?:D

No no no not at all. In my limited research so far, I think fair to say exlana is about as progressive a breed as you can get. Easycares are purely based on ability rather than looks, so plenty of scope there to make huge genetic gains.

Just trying to get an idea on the future genetic researches taking place.
 

George C

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bath
Is it only lleyn that have researched into this so far? Was already aware of it but read update in NSA. Says easier than taking FEC (fail to see how) and cheaper. Certainly useful knowledge for replacement & potential USP as maternal breeder. @Tim W

Saliva samples are taken by putting a dental roll attached to forceps in the pouch between the sheep's teeth and cheek for about 8 - 10 seconds.

For individual FEC samples if you are lucky you will catch a few samples as they go to the loo but otherwise it is a finger in the rectum of the sheep to get a sample - unsurprisingly everyone prefers taking samples from the front end.
 

Tim W

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Wiltshire
The best summary of where we are with this at the moment is here

http://www.signetfbc.co.uk/using-saliva-iga-to-select-sheep-genetically-resistant-to-parasites/

For strongyles the heritability is better than FEC - IgA 0.16 FEC S 0.08

At the moment we are paying £2 per IgA sample (as opposed to £5 or £5.50 for individual FEC) but not sure what the eventual 'commercial' price will be.

Heritability's differ between populations ---ours are estimated at FEC S=0.19 & FEC N =0.13 ....not done any IgA yet
 

George C

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bath
Heritability's differ between populations ---ours are estimated at FEC S=0.19 & FEC N =0.13 ....not done any IgA yet

Yes the reduction in FEC S heritability has been disappointing. The Lleyn heritability estimates were also FEC S 0.19 and FEC N 0.13 before this latest re-evaluation with a lot more data. At the same time EGENES updated their validation procedures to include more samples with very low values which has made a big difference and I imagine this will be the same for all breeds that have a FEC EBV.
 

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Webinar: Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer 2024 -26th Sept

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On Thursday 26th September, we’re holding a webinar for farmers to go through the guidance, actions and detail for the expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer. This was planned for end of May, but had to be delayed due to the general election. We apologise about that.

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