"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

Ukjay

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Wales!
Dead nettle.
Not sure
Buttercup?
We have some fields we rent where we graze some silage some and hay 2 which are side by side. 3 years ago I started grazing one of the hay fields and they had been hay or silage for 10+ years at that point and as you can imagine there were heaps of buttercups out there. Absolutely filthy with them. It’s amazing what a couple of years grazing on a sort of rotation can do to a field. The hay one next door is the same as it was. The now grazed one is looking a lot better now. Just got to stop the bloody dog walkers letting the cattle out. Once already this year they have been in the hay field :mad:

Thank you.

Just googled Dead Nettle - looks very similar, and someone was eating it on YouTube...
So, is that a good sign and something sheep will eat freely or will I have to tighten up the stocking density?
 

bitwrx

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Thank you.

Just googled Dead Nettle - looks very similar, and someone was eating it on YouTube...
So, is that a good sign and something sheep will eat freely or will I have to tighten up the stocking density?
Our neighbour is set-stocking ewes and lambs on our grass (with plenty of that stuff in there).
They don't seem to like it as much as the grass...
 

Samcowman

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Thank you.

Just googled Dead Nettle - looks very similar, and someone was eating it on YouTube...
So, is that a good sign and something sheep will eat freely or will I have to tighten up the stocking density?
No idea on if sheep will eat it. All I know about sheep is we had a leg of lamb on Sunday and it was bloody brilliant, been too long. I’ve got a now third year reseed which hasn’t gone that well which has loads of dead nettle down one side. Going to graze the bottom end of it this year rather than silage it and see what difference the 2 options make on the makeup of the sward going forward.
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
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Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Should say I leave the lambed ewes behind each day, and have started bunching them up as they get older now.
Do you have a formula for bunching them back up after lambing?
ie how soon do you do it?

Common practice around here is to set-stock from about the start of lambing, halfway to weaning, and IMHO it (the set stocked bit) is the biggest hidden cost of farming, by eating all that regrowth at the worst possible time
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
How are you going to move it? And how often?
Every day atm because there's not much grass out there. Quad pulls it.
The plan is to have 2 with new hens in 1 each autumn. There'll be a few less in there then as aiming for free range spacing so less moving will be needed.
Would prefer "proper" free range freedom but foxy stops that.

This is daughter's project but I intend to experiment with some pastured broilers too.
 
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Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Since we have gone no spray and gone sheep grazing and sh!t chucking, we are seeing new vegetation that has not been visible prior to this year (before sheep go back on) anyone know what they are:

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Not sure about the variegated one in the third picture, Jay. But those nettles are "red dead nettle" or dead nettle - because they don't sting!
And buttercup at the bottom, I think from the leaf it's creeping buttercup, ranunculus repens
 

Poorbuthappy

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Do you have a formula for bunching them back up after lambing?
ie how soon do you do it?

Common practice around here is to set-stock from about the start of lambing, halfway to weaning, and IMHO it (the set stocked bit) is the biggest hidden cost of farming, by eating all that regrowth at the worst possible time
Yes I'm very conscious of that and have started bunching them up at about a week old. But I don't have 1000's and the biggest mob will be less than 200 doubles so hopefully will work ok.
 

Ukjay

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Location
Wales!
Any chance of bunching the ewes up on it and trampling them to death? I’m going to give it a go with a patch of docks this year

I have asked the guy who grazes our land to try that, but as I will be moving - need to keep option over re the maintenance etc to avoid letting it go back to ruin.
 

Ukjay

Member
Location
Wales!
Not sure about the variegated one in the third picture, Jay. But those nettles are "red dead nettle" or dead nettle - because they don't sting!
And buttercup at the bottom, I think from the leaf it's creeping buttercup, ranunculus repens

Thanks Pete,

We did have some creeping buttercup when we too over the property, but we never saw any last year - so do sheep eat them, as all our paddocks were grazed by sheep for the first time in over a decade?
 

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