seems to have changed in the last few years, we didn't see enough snow to need ploughing from about 84 or 86 to 5 or 6 years ago so about 30 years, we seem to be getting more again for some reasonYou wanna come here then
Mind you, I've seen more snow & suffered colder temps here than I did in 3 yrs of living in the U.K. ( mostly Sth England )
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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- NSW, Newstralya
its not hot all the time 
about a 40 C variation
from -7C to say 47C
should be somewhere comfortable in that
about a 40 C variation
from -7C to say 47C
should be somewhere comfortable in that
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
yeah, I was there from 88 - 91. A lot of talk then of droughts & heatwaves & water restrictions & old people dying , so I probably struck a warmer / drier than normal time
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Take ten degrees off those numbers and you have my expected temperature range.its not hot all the time
about a 40 C variation
from -7C to say 47C
should be somewhere comfortable in that
But it 'averages' 12.7° .... so that's an advantage
In saying that - below -10° I put my long keks on and stay out of the river, the ocean is warmer, all year roond
As you have said snow has changed a ton in my lifetime, and I am just a brat in the great scheme of things - in 88 I was still singing and writing speeches at primary school
think my first broken heart was about '91 and that was Cyndi LauperHowever snow is rarely powdery anymore, wetter and slushier and in odd amounts at odder times - '87 IIRC I was fishing (in falling snow) on the longest day?
May be out a year.
Either way I simply cannot count on "it will provide" as you said Roy hope is not a management strategy.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
ok, back to holistic grazing management & some Oz input
http://www.theconsciousfarmer.com/grass-remove-graze/
http://www.theconsciousfarmer.com/feed-choice-ability-choose-important-livestock-health/
http://www.theconsciousfarmer.com/grass-remove-graze/
http://www.theconsciousfarmer.com/feed-choice-ability-choose-important-livestock-health/
- Location
- Owaka, New Zealand
Pretty interesting stuff there - glad that at least something backs up my cuckoo calls from up in the clouds here.
Especially the removal of the little costs through higher value forages even if they look less tidy and "maintained"
One little pearl was that "a mouthful may be more than half a plant" and in many instances this is what I see here on a daily basis when evaluating the previous grazing period's effectiveness - the little poa annua and lower producing grasses are diminished and the bigger plants are encouraged - it may lead back to @CornishTone's question about my views on ryegrass vs other grasses in the mix - they take care of themselves as the seasons and grazings constantly change.
Especially the removal of the little costs through higher value forages even if they look less tidy and "maintained"
One little pearl was that "a mouthful may be more than half a plant" and in many instances this is what I see here on a daily basis when evaluating the previous grazing period's effectiveness - the little poa annua and lower producing grasses are diminished and the bigger plants are encouraged - it may lead back to @CornishTone's question about my views on ryegrass vs other grasses in the mix - they take care of themselves as the seasons and grazings constantly change.
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Way more detail there than we'd get here.
Glad I visited in June 2017 not 18
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Verry interesting. Especially this quote "there are significant differences among a group of animals – “as much as half of the animals in the group may differ significantly from the mean in food preferences and nutrient tolerances”2, yet management practices are often built around the average animal. Recognition of differences within the herd makes it clear that allowing animals to select from diverse feedtypes will be a good thing for the animals’ performance and health."
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
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He'd be fascinating to spend a few hours chatting to.
"The politicians, they don't give a damn, most of them. They're caught up in economic rationalism and growth for destruction".
A view I've sadly come to as well.
That conclusion could equally well be about the Grenfell Tower fire enquiry evidence yesterday
He'd be fascinating to spend a few hours chatting to.
"The politicians, they don't give a damn, most of them. They're caught up in economic rationalism and growth for destruction".
A view I've sadly come to as well.
That conclusion could equally well be about the Grenfell Tower fire enquiry evidence yesterday
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politicians are always thinking of the next time they need to get elected,"
He'd be fascinating to spend a few hours chatting to.
"The politicians, they don't give a damn, most of them. They're caught up in economic rationalism and growth for destruction".
A view I've sadly come to as well.
That conclusion could equally well be about the Grenfell Tower fire enquiry evidence yesterday
always thought that the right dictator would be better there must be a best person for the job but the downfall of that is power corrupts
way to much greed these days as well, the entitlement to get rich from doing very little or to be kept while doing nothing useful at all
The good news about Holistic Managed grazing, and no-till and other regenerative farming techniques come to that, is that you can safely ignore politicians and just get on with farming profitably, by growing things that people want to eat without becoming a hostage to fortune by relying on inputs which are going to become increasingly expensive. The answer, as always, lies in the soil...
ShooTa
Member
- Location
- Denbighshire - In the vale of Clwyd!
well said martian.
hollister
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- Location
- Alcester, warks
They are moving into another 17 acre field to do the same thing today so up to another 30 days I guess.
Learning as I go here (as ever).
BTW, The direct drill is nearly ready to run the last acre of forage maize through it this week.
Watch this space!
Oh, and has anyone got 6 scrap plough discs with legs lying around? I'll need discs on it next year as I intend to go into a live sward with it.
Well.... How did it go?
But how often and how long does it stay in the comfortable zoneits not hot all the time
about a 40 C variation
from -7C to say 47C
should be somewhere comfortable in that
I could say that about here! Ah with the temperature range we’ve got, eventually you’ll hit an area you’re comfortable with. You just might be a popsicle or a mosquitos mojito the rest of the time!
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Only just finished getting the drill ready
Now I have to work out how to get it into the field 3 miles away on narrow local roads (it's 3.8 M wide)
Once of today's jobs
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
This quote is from Robert H. Elliot’s 1898’ The Clifton Park System of Farming’. I think it says it all. We’ve taken a lot of wrong turns in the last 120 years, but this thread seems to be trying to get back on track.
- Location
- Quebec, Canada
Where is everyone?