that's what the owner of the orchard thought so they bought some, its not true
"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..
- Thread starter Kiwi Pete
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- Location
- Devon
Upset a landlord once when my rams completely stripped the bark off a large ash tree from ground level as high as they could reach. Bit of ivy was the only thing that saved it, though not sure for how long.
Woolless
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- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Oh dear. I know the society make quite a bit of that attribute and they graze Christmas tree plantations and even vineyards I think. Could just have been that strain. Like anything else, if they're not selected on it, they'll slip back.
- Location
- Isle of Skye
They seem harder on the trees at Autumn for some reason, tups her seem to strip it off for entertainment. The only trees bark they leave well alone is sycamore, does anybody know of other trees they leave alone?
well they wouldn't go at yew for long
- Location
- Isle of Skye
Mine would manage to live long enough to ring bark it i'm sure
baaa
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I have a mains energizer the biggest I could find. Battery and solar energizers only go up to 4J here. Mine has a 15J output. It doesn't say the ampage on it. I guess I would need that to work out the supply required.
That's a good idea thank you.
Does anyone know what sort of current a strong mains fencer would need?
Would need to be DC for a simple solar set up. An inverter to up to 24ov would be a bit complicated and expensive.
Can get DC energiser with a 240v converter via 13 amp and Jack plug. Ie dual power use. If so required .
Last energiser I bought was from this lot https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/electric-fence/energisers/12v-battery-dual-power-energisers.html
7j or something he is, 12v and 240v dual purpose, I run them off solar , hes on an 100w panel ( which is a bit over the top and weve got another 3 ish j one from mvf on 60w panel and charge controller.
Panels came via Amazon complete with the necessary charge controller to prevent over charging etc.
Plus of course you need the battery for storage / buffer best to get a fairly big capacity (AH) leisure type
Sheep here have big respect for both of them but we do use 4 wires these days as I've said before I think
Can get DC energiser with a 240v converter via 13 amp and Jack plug. Ie dual power use. If so required .
Last energiser I bought was from this lot https://www.electric-fence.co.uk/electric-fence/energisers/12v-battery-dual-power-energisers.html
7j or something he is, 12v and 240v dual purpose, I run them off solar , hes on an 100w panel ( which is a bit over the top and weve got another 3 ish j one from mvf on 60w panel and charge controller.
Panels came via Amazon complete with the necessary charge controller to prevent over charging etc.
Plus of course you need the battery for storage / buffer best to get a fairly big capacity (AH) leisure type
Sheep here have big respect for both of them but we do use 4 wires these days as I've said before I think
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Whitewalker
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They don’t Earth great in such dry weather though. Have 6 inch bolts into ground. Any tips?
Woolless
Member
- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
Pour a bucket of water over that area to help the contact?
- Location
- Essex
Leaving a can of water on its side with a loose top is one way I have heard of . Rather like if you wanted to water a young tree.
Percy Veer
Member
I have a solar powered electric fence and instead of trying to force an earthing stake into the dry ground, I just attach the earth lead to the fence wire netting which has plenty of ground contact. It's effective
Whitewalker
Member
That’s a good idea. Never thought of that
- Location
- Isle of Skye
Meh... just discovered orf outbreak in home lambs. Now we're going to have to run two mobs, and keep them separate for pretty much the whole summer, or risk spreading it to another 100+ lambs. Should have joined them up by now but good grass growth at home and some late lambers have kept them apart.
My plans for daily shifts till weaning are pretty much out the window, and rest periods are going to shorten too...
My plans for daily shifts till weaning are pretty much out the window, and rest periods are going to shorten too...
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
This just popped up on FB
When doing Regenerative Management applying Non-Selective Intensive Grazing with long breaks, a good design of strokes and a good electric fence is indispensable;
the joules, that power that is generated in the team, would be half the work, the other side gives it to us the physical land or the negative so we depend on the efficient communication of the earth, as the electric pulse will enter the animal according to the speed with which the electric pulse finds the earth.. That is the nasty feeling you will feel with the "touch", if the earth is not efficient when transmitting the power contained in the wire of nothing serves that's why the Copper rod and moisture:
"to give more efficiency to the fence it is important to tune the earth"
Aldo Díaz Gómez
MRR Partner & Advisor.
When doing Regenerative Management applying Non-Selective Intensive Grazing with long breaks, a good design of strokes and a good electric fence is indispensable;
the joules, that power that is generated in the team, would be half the work, the other side gives it to us the physical land or the negative so we depend on the efficient communication of the earth, as the electric pulse will enter the animal according to the speed with which the electric pulse finds the earth.. That is the nasty feeling you will feel with the "touch", if the earth is not efficient when transmitting the power contained in the wire of nothing serves that's why the Copper rod and moisture:
"to give more efficiency to the fence it is important to tune the earth"
Aldo Díaz Gómez
MRR Partner & Advisor.
Whitewalker
Member
that’s the dogs wotsits of an earth
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya
They are in a very dry environment
- Location
- NSW, Newstralya