"Improving Our Lot" - Planned Holistic Grazing, for starters..

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
is it just me, or is the Blackthorn blossoming early this year ?

as a rough and ready guide, for springs arrival, reckon if there are 10 wild flowers out, between our house and farm, spring is here, up to nine.

weather wise, its been a shite winter, we deserve a early benign spring. PD ing the cows friday, could get them out for a few hours, after that, or tb test next week.

certainly ease the work load, and help the lagoon !
 

Jonny B88

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Location
ballykelly. NI
Movement schedule for cattle

Herd Cows
0800
1400

Fattening Cattle
0900
1100 (wire lifter)
1300
1500 (wire lifter)

Youngstock (on crop)
1000

Then 2x mobs of sheep every 2 days. Long days and fencing by head torch, but it's achievable with 1 person. Fortunately I've got plenty of staff though.
Interesting your twice daily being 8:00 and 14:00. Why 14:00 as opposed to later say 16:00?

we have cattle doing 09:00 and around 16:30. Not for any particular reason.
 

Samcowman

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Last year I was shifting twice a day. First thing in the morning and early evening. (Can’t remember the exact times). Started off splitting the daily allocation in half. But got an uneven impact with the day section being hammered and the night with leftovers. Switched to giving 2/3rds in the day and 1/3 for night and it was about spot on.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Main thing is that it has to work, and by work I don't mean just work for the stock or work for the pasture.

Weekly shifts work really well coming from that background, as I know exactly what I want to see in terms of gutfill, behaviour, contentment, dung, utilisation etc - all it is, is slower and steadier

Not suggesting that this is automatic as you could shift animals every 30 minutes and still be very wide of the mark, or at least 'my mark', and just be burning fuel and time to get nowhere other than getting in the way.

I often look at pictures and not only wonder what business stock have being in that paddock, but on that farm - if that's the best cover there is, the animals should be gone.

But it's nicer to just keep that under my lid and mind my own business
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Main thing is that it has to work, and by work I don't mean just work for the stock or work for the pasture.

Weekly shifts work really well coming from that background, as I know exactly what I want to see in terms of gutfill, behaviour, contentment, dung, utilisation etc - all it is, is slower and steadier

Not suggesting that this is automatic as you could shift animals every 30 minutes and still be very wide of the mark, or at least 'my mark', and just be burning fuel and time to get nowhere other than getting in the way.

I often look at pictures and not only wonder what business stock have being in that paddock, but on that farm - if that's the best cover there is, the animals should be gone.

But it's nicer to just keep that under my lid and mind my own business
When it comes to cattle thats easy for you to say you haven't got sh1t for a gov well you did have but you got shot of them
 

Jonny B88

Member
Location
ballykelly. NI
Last year I was shifting twice a day. First thing in the morning and early evening. (Can’t remember the exact times). Started off splitting the daily allocation in half. But got an uneven impact with the day section being hammered and the night with leftovers. Switched to giving 2/3rds in the day and 1/3 for night and it was about spot on.
Funny we are having it the other way round!! Night time more impacted than daytime. Strange, maybe i have back to front cattle 😂😂
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
When it comes to cattle thats easy for you to say you haven't got sh1t for a gov well you did have but you got shot of them
Ah yes the government !
Of course they're the reason for no grass in the paddocks.

Any time I see grass get miraculously "gone" from a farm it was the farmer that did it.

In between being a vet and a meteorologist and a fortune teller, there's still time to unload a barrel or two into their foot
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Ah yes the government !
Of course they're the reason for no grass in the paddocks.

Any time I see grass get miraculously "gone" from a farm it was the farmer that did it.

In between being a vet and a meteorologist and a fortune teller, there's still time to unload a barrel or two into their foot
Our gov in some cases prevents the stock being moved from the farm hence they eat the grass or get put in a shed.
all very holistic, one can only p1ss with the c... one has
now we can bitch about it on the farming forum along with the grid for selling cattle not being fair or we can get the feck on with it and make the best of what we have.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Politics is a weird one as you notice the people with the biggest complaints are by far the most likely to go out and vote for more.

Not saying that apathy is the answer to the critters either, but I like to remind people "hey you voted for it!" and the same goes for most games we play in life.

It helps to fully choose being governed, then as you said you work with what you can control - management of the resources

I am choosing running out of water and choosing to put the youngstock in paddocks with lower quality dam water to conserve what's left.
Likewise I'm choosing to put the cows where they can slurp out of the stream, and I'm choosing my punishment if I get pinged for doing so. At the very least we'll get through to the wet season.

The alternative is that I can lose sleep about things I can't control and that's just a silly thing for a manager to do

Have just been unloading cows in the dark as a truck broke down and blocked the road for a few hours, so these girls didn't get loaded until after 5, thought they might like something to eat and drink after all that waiting and then almost a 6 hour ride

Then noticed my pumpshed light was off on my way back, so cleaned the suction filter and rebooted that, lots of little caddis stuck to it.

Nice to come home, grind some coffee and have a brew, will make sure I don't pissz on me socks
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
Calves had a shift today
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Quite misty almost drizzle this morning and cleared through
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last of the animals down from the valley, driver had them loaded before they had a chance to run the wand over them, so did that, now I have a mob of 370 cows to landscape with 👌 they swam through a dam while I had my lunch
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A couple had walked through under a fence so pushed them back, mrs KP says she "just can't watch me ride, some of the places I go" yet still sent me pictures
 

onesiedale

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Calves had a shift todayView attachment 1171215
Quite misty almost drizzle this morning and cleared throughView attachment 1171216last of the animals down from the valley, driver had them loaded before they had a chance to run the wand over them, so did that, now I have a mob of 370 cows to landscape with 👌 they swam through a dam while I had my lunchView attachment 1171218View attachment 1171219View attachment 1171220View attachment 1171221
A couple had walked through under a fence so pushed them back, mrs KP says she "just can't watch me ride, some of the places I go" yet still sent me pictures
would have been a worse 'watch' if you were on a quad bike
 

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