I’ve got a hankering for Touareg, around 2015 might just be working budget, anything to look out for in them?
Interest in electric cars slumps by 2/3 rds
- Thread starter bobk
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I have looked through this thread, has anyone looked at car prices?
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...onesearchad=Used&maximum-mileage=45000&page=1
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...ectric&page=1&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true
the ev above is an ev of a type that a friend of mine has. and a diesel Astra to price match, I was going for size and colour match mileage is not a match, but it doesn't effect the price that much and I gave the Astra £500 extra for its lower mileage. note the ev is 150bhp now look up 150bhp cars of that age for sale the cheapest is 17K which is even more money, than the EV.
now he had a diesel car his mileage is similar now to what it was, even with a short ish ranged EV, he home charges on cheap rate night electric with a home charger 95% of the time, his words not mine it drives better it has more power and saves me £400/month in 2022.
he got a second hand one at 2 years old. which I think was a 2020 model.
range. . . lets be real if you do more daily mileage than an ev your looking at can do without a charge then its not for you, this ev had about 168 miles no one will take it on a 168 mile trip without a planned charge stop. so ideally its for people wanting 100 miles or less per day, my friend does about 80 miles most days sometimes more.
if you do 100 miles or less per day and have a second car for long trips then why not?
save yourself some money while retaining the use of a second car to do long trips in.
to be honest don't knock it until you try it. an increased supply of second hand EV's will lower there prices the main problem is getting a strong new ev market to drive this, intrest rates being what they are are squeezing people which is never good for the new car market for any brand.
ok new.
model y suv 0-60 in 6.6 seconds, which is about 250-300bhp ice car performance.
https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/modely/design#overview
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...nesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&page=1
I have gone again for, similar power and size. to be honest what is there in it? if anything the ice are more expensive. and more expensive to run as well.
then look at lease prices again the ev wins.
instead of looking to the media to feed you info go look for yourselves.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...onesearchad=Used&maximum-mileage=45000&page=1
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...ectric&page=1&percentVehiclePriceDeposit=true
the ev above is an ev of a type that a friend of mine has. and a diesel Astra to price match, I was going for size and colour match mileage is not a match, but it doesn't effect the price that much and I gave the Astra £500 extra for its lower mileage. note the ev is 150bhp now look up 150bhp cars of that age for sale the cheapest is 17K which is even more money, than the EV.
now he had a diesel car his mileage is similar now to what it was, even with a short ish ranged EV, he home charges on cheap rate night electric with a home charger 95% of the time, his words not mine it drives better it has more power and saves me £400/month in 2022.
he got a second hand one at 2 years old. which I think was a 2020 model.
range. . . lets be real if you do more daily mileage than an ev your looking at can do without a charge then its not for you, this ev had about 168 miles no one will take it on a 168 mile trip without a planned charge stop. so ideally its for people wanting 100 miles or less per day, my friend does about 80 miles most days sometimes more.
if you do 100 miles or less per day and have a second car for long trips then why not?
save yourself some money while retaining the use of a second car to do long trips in.
to be honest don't knock it until you try it. an increased supply of second hand EV's will lower there prices the main problem is getting a strong new ev market to drive this, intrest rates being what they are are squeezing people which is never good for the new car market for any brand.
ok new.
model y suv 0-60 in 6.6 seconds, which is about 250-300bhp ice car performance.
https://www.tesla.com/en_gb/modely/design#overview
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-de...nesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&page=1
I have gone again for, similar power and size. to be honest what is there in it? if anything the ice are more expensive. and more expensive to run as well.
then look at lease prices again the ev wins.
instead of looking to the media to feed you info go look for yourselves.
Pfft … EVs are like cordless drills. Work fine initially, useless after a number of recharge cycles.
Give it a few more years then I think there is going to be a lot of pain to come when buyers try to trade secondhand EVs … which will impact on lease deals pdq.
Steevo
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- Gloucestershire
I've never had any issues with Makita cordless kit....nor had a battery give up.
Perhaps Makita should start making EVs.....!
I've never had any issues with Makita cordless kit....nor had a battery give up.
Perhaps Makita should start making EVs.....!
We get through at least two a year … then again, we are dairy farmers
ollie989898
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This is the truth- new car manufacture is horrendously polluting, just the water used in this is off the scale.
ollie989898
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I would have an electric car no problem. I just refuse to spend money on buying one and I quite like the car I have for now and intend to get least 100K more miles out of it.
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- Scottish Highlands
No idea. Feel free to Google if you’re interested. It will be a no zero figure though, for sure. We may be a hinterland of Edinburgh but the Highlands aren’t that impoverished.
If folk think we have no chargers , try France .
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- Scottish Highlands
So are ICE - and in both cases the number of recharge cycles is rather higher than the rest of the car would realistically manage.
ollie989898
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I'm surprised they haven't banned electric cars in France or only installed chargers which fit Peugeots or Citroens only.
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- Scottish Highlands
Not me. I like the 3/4 year old type. High power and who cares about the miles as long as it still feels like new.
The CEO of Peugeot was on tv this week complaining there's no chargers , and they've built leccy lorries ... wtf
wanton dwarf
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Yep, there is no doubt at all that batteries will require changing within the car's lifetime.
Manufacturer repair centre heaven - mega bucks to be charged.
I would guess this will be over £15,000.00 per vehicle - if it's even possible.
to be honest most ev cars come with 8 year 100k mileage warrantees, but I do get that at 8 years old, people will get nervous about the battery. at 5-7k to replace it its no small amount of money.
https://www.slashgear.com/898619/heres-how-long-a-tesla-model-3-battery-will-actually-last/
300k -500k mileage estimate for a tesla battery pack in a model 3.
I have never owned a car with more than 179k on it that was starting to get ruff everywhere, at that point as it was 15 years old.
the good news is the tesla drive motors are in high demand for the conversion market, so even with a duff battery it will retain value, greater than a ice car of 15 years old.
plenty of cars under £2k at 15 years old.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/14466092...7779&msclkid=1eda3835360716d7aefc5c744b53c066
even when the battery fails it may have good parts.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36411791...7779&msclkid=1165da181f531676bca4be5962ecaf18
£775 per 5.3kwh and batteries have maybe 70kwh in a car. if half are ok then 35kwh so say 7 modules so over £5k in value, in a half broken battery pack.
wanton dwarf
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We buy cars new and keep them well over 20 years. Mine is currently 20 years, old man has two over 25 years.
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- Scottish Highlands
Nonsense - very few will.
wanton dwarf
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Should that be we used to buy new cars ?
Never bought a new un here , I luv a classic