Is 28t replacing 29t

[Daniel]

So just to be clear, if someone has flogged 10 loads at £110/t and the price has risen in the meantime to £130/t they short load each lorry by 1t thus keeping 10t for the next contract and making themselves the princely sum of £200?

Barely seems worth the aggravation!

 

[Farmer T]

So just to be clear, if someone has flogged 10 loads at £110/t and the price has risen in the meantime to £130/t they short load each lorry by 1t thus keeping 10t for the next contract and making themselves the princely sum of £200?

Barely seems worth the aggravation!

True..... but.......

if a grain company had a full time person working out logistics of where the lorries go depending on the contract I bet it would soon pay for them to do so.

I don't believe they do- however I've been loading barley in Dec sold at an early price and all my returns are around the 28t mark. When I was loading the same company some barley in November at spot price they sent their own lorries and loaded 29t every time. Coincidence I'm sure and there's nothing I can do about it anyway!

 

[Condi]

Just to be clear, no merchant I know of have ever asked a haulier to load light or heavy depending on the contract. Our haulage boys dont know the details, they just know a load needs to be picked up from Mr Jones and taken to a mill and how much they will be paid for doing so. Some hauliers run lighter wagons and so will get over 29t on each lorry, some run heavier and so run at nearer 28.5t. Also if a driver is caught overweight then it is on his head, and in recent years with better weighloaders on the trailers we have seen far far fewer overweight loads.

But dont let the truth get in the way of a conspiracy theory! Farmers are more likely to load light/heavy in my experience as they know what they are loading out on what contract. Granted it doesnt happen too often, but in the back of every farmers mind he knows how much he has sold this load for and where the market is at the moment.

 

[7610 super q]

I don't have much say in the matter.... lorries that come here have scales, so just keep loading till driver says stop.

 

[Clive]

So just out of interest what is the highest legal payload you can get with a bulker? I know most are around the 29 ton mark but if you could find a lighter truck etc.

Have had a legal 31.2t over our weighbridge - day cab with small mid lift wheel and plank side bulker - not many drivers want to drive such basic trucks though !

Most trucks are getting way too heavy though as drivers want a 1t home from home in the cab and adblue and other emissions systems add weight

 

[Condi]

The drivers often leave the yard at 5am on Monday morning and come back at 2pm Friday afternoon. Wanting a 'home from home' isnt unreasonable when they spend more time in their cabs than actually at a bricks and mortar home.

 

[Against_the_grain]

£60night in a travel lodge would soon seem like a good deal if your hauling another 2t everywhere. Location is obviously the issue but on a regular route could be an option....

 

[Condi]

The hauliers need £20/t/day to make the economics work, and maybe turn around £25/t/day on a good day. So carrying an extra 2t only brings in an extra £50/day. Thus at £60 a night you're actually losing £10 per day while also losing the flexibility of being able to send the lorry wherever.

 

[Al R]

The nearest haulier has a few v8 R580's with full cab, twin fuel tanks, twin exhausts and an array of lights and it's 28,200 with them with half a tank of fuel.. Yes they may need the power on the hills a lot but a very very big haulier not far away has all Volvo 380/400/420's on the artics with no sleepers, small fuel tanks and no fancy stuff/lights and are carrying 30t most trips!
@SilliamWhale would have the same problem!

 

[Philip Watkins]

£60night in a travel lodge would soon seem like a good deal if your hauling another 2t everywhere. Location is obviously the issue but on a regular route could be an option....

I'm sure Travelodge (other motels chains are available) would love 44 tonne artics on their car parks on a regular basis.

 

[TripleSix]

On the spuds, the buyers own drivers get paid daily.

The outside owner operators get paid per tonne.

One asshat with a V8 kept saying the loads were light.

So we heaped a bulker up so high we couldn't fasten the sheet to shut him up.

Much consternation when he landed back at base and overloaded the 50t weighbridge.

We have our own artic tipping trailer, luckily we've got scales on it, although once it was left unattended and the combine driver brimmed it to about 34 tonne...

 

[Lincsman]

Lets not forget that in each hauliers yard they have trucks that carry different weights, and no one can really predict which one will be collecting yours in the day to day redirecting trucks etc.

BUT one thing that does annoy is merchants have terms and conditions (see gleadell) that say any capped loads will be charged, IE sell 116tonnes but 4x30 tonnes come but you load 116tonnes they charge you for 4tonnes capped on the last load, and Vice Versa

 

[crazy_bull]

Lets not forget that in each hauliers yard they have trucks that carry different weights, and no one can really predict which one will be collecting yours in the day to day redirecting trucks etc.

BUT one thing that does annoy is merchants have terms and conditions (see gleadell) that say any capped loads will be charged, IE sell 116tonnes but 4x30 tonnes come but you load 116tonnes they charge you for 4tonnes capped on the last load, and Vice Versa

Have you actually ever been charged a CAP charge in that instance?

C B

 

[Lincsman]

Have you actually ever been charged a CAP charge in that instance?

C B

Yes.. etched in my memory as you can imagine, haulage company charged so had to be passed on.

It was a few years ago when 30.25t wasnt uncommon, and I was short of wheat to meet the next contract so kept it to exact amount.

 

[roscoe erf]

I'm sure Travelodge (other motels chains are available) would love 44 tonne artics on their car parks on a regular basis.

would they f**k and they don't take cash either

 

[Philip Watkins]

would they fudge and they don't take cash either

Sorry, I forgot the sarcastic smilie.

 

[roscoe erf]

Sorry, I forgot the sarcastic smilie.

your forgiven

 

[Steel]

Until about 10 years ago most trucks here were overloaded as they always told each other on the radio where the weigh bridges to check up on them were located.
Once the authorities got access to the recieval forms and fine anybody over the truck drivers have all got very careful. Most trucks now have airbags and pressure guages fitted so they know what to fill to.
My carter now had almost entirely road trains, but is only allowed one trailer in this area.
Depending on the tuck our loads are between 55 and 58 tones.
I only overloaded one truck last harvest and luckily was following the drivers instruction. He had to tip out about 4 tones on the ground to be legal. He did offer to shovel it up, but was not here when I needed to do it.