Is it easy to split a 3 metre combi.

[Devil's advocate]

Is it quite simple to split a 3 metre combi?

For good reasons I only have 85 & 95 hp tractors. So no chance with a combi. Is it ok to buy a combi & run the power harrow on one tractor & drill on the other? Thinking 12K budget for 3 metre combi, maybe an A frame to buy? Second hand of course.

 

[PI Stsker]

To be honest the draft requirement for the drill is FA. You’d probably get on similar speed with it on than off, things with a power harrow there so diesel intensive you want to get a seedbed in one pass so better off going avit slower. I’d of thought the 95hp would handle a 3m combi, be abit steady but faster than two passes!

 

[DieselRob]

If you bought something like a 3m Kuhn accord combi the fan is run off the back of the powerharrow rather than sapping hydraulic power, 95hp should cope fine, we used to run a 3m on a Deere 6200 which will have been about 90hp

 

[goodevans]

See if you can find an old lely or maschio, lightweight and go steady and one pass

 

[balerman]

No,it will be too heavy for a start.Unless you are only going to half fill the drill.I have a 2.5m Kuhn/Accord combi,managed on a NH T5070 for one season,but was far from comfortable.

 

[alomy75]

Is it quite simple to split a 3 metre combi?

For good reasons I only have 85 & 95 hp tractors. So no chance with a combi. Is it ok to buy a combi & run the power harrow on one tractor & drill on the other? Thinking 12K budget for 3 metre combi, maybe an A frame to buy? Second hand of course.

Your 95hp will be fine; there’s another discussion on another thread about the older combis being a lot lighter-we used to have a maschio/sulky on 80hp and it worked it easily. You might struggle with depth control a little by splitting-I’d say they’re fairly dependent on being mounted on a firm, stable anchor like the power Harrow as many don’t have depth wheels (lely used to if I recall correctly). However; if you’re chucking 12k at it I’d say you’re looking at the modern type which are a lot heavier and your tractors may not be big enough. That begs its own question whether you really need all that weight…in drill and tractor…to bury 3m of seed(?)

 

[Andrew1983]

Would go for a box drill over air if 95hp is all you have, I guess it depends on the tractor if it can actually lift it or not but I’d think 95 would just about pull a ph combi on flat land. Dual wheels and something for counter weight up front required.

 

[David1968]

Is it quite simple to split a 3 metre combi?

For good reasons I only have 85 & 95 hp tractors. So no chance with a combi. Is it ok to buy a combi & run the power harrow on one tractor & drill on the other? Thinking 12K budget for 3 metre combi, maybe an A frame to buy? Second hand of course.

If you're going to have to split them, why buy a combi in the first place?

Buy a power harrow, and then buy a drill

 

[nonemouse]

Is it quite simple to split a 3 metre combi?

For good reasons I only have 85 & 95 hp tractors. So no chance with a combi. Is it ok to buy a combi & run the power harrow on one tractor & drill on the other? Thinking 12K budget for 3 metre combi, maybe an A frame to buy? Second hand of course.

Used to run a 3mtr Kuhn power Harrow Krm drill combi on a 90hp tractor (case5120) for several years doing best part of 150 acres a year. As somebody else said a box drill is better if you’re on a small tractor. To run the drill without powerharrow you might need to make something like an old farm force drill mate (2 rows of tines and a packer) to regulate depth.
Or just buy a power harrow and something like an old mf30 drill)

 

[Devil's advocate]

Used to run a 3mtr Kuhn power Harrow Krm drill combi on a 90hp tractor (case5120) for several years doing best part of 150 acres a year. As somebody else said a box drill is better if you’re on a small tractor. To run the drill without powerharrow you might need to make something like an old farm force drill mate (2 rows of tines and a packer) to regulate depth.
Or just buy a power harrow and something like an old mf30 drill)

Totally agree about just buying power harrow & drill. But MF 30's must be getting a bit long in the tooth now?

We used to have a MF30 & liked it.

Air seeders do have advantages though, better distribution of seed up & down hills plus the large easy to fill hopper. No need to end tow too our MF 30 the ritchie kit was a bit bent & hard work to get ready for the road.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Your 95hp will be fine; there’s another discussion on another thread about the older combis being a lot lighter-we used to have a maschio/sulky on 80hp and it worked it easily. You might struggle with depth control a little by splitting-I’d say they’re fairly dependent on being mounted on a firm, stable anchor like the power Harrow as many don’t have depth wheels (lely used to if I recall correctly). However; if you’re chucking 12k at it I’d say you’re looking at the modern type which are a lot heavier and your tractors may not be big enough. That begs its own question whether you really need all that weight…in drill and tractor…to bury 3m of seed(?)

We used to drill just fine with 65 hp, I look at modern kit and just think why?

Trouble is buying secondhand it is what is available.

 

[Will 1594]

Used to run a 3mtr Kuhn power Harrow Krm drill combi on a 90hp tractor (case5120) for several years doing best part of 150 acres a year. As somebody else said a box drill is better if you’re on a small tractor. To run the drill without powerharrow you might need to make something like an old farm force drill mate (2 rows of tines and a packer) to regulate depth.
Or just buy a power harrow and something like an old mf30 drill)

Piggy back linkage so drill lifts up over power harrow when up , still old lely and fiona here and the front press that did between wheels when on 2140 then 2850 , and theold bettison 13-38 duals
95 hp will do it ,

 

[JeremyD]

Find a Lely or Accord as they are the lightest combis. I used to drill 450 acres with this rig on a 6410.

 

[Dave W]

That’sa seriously healthy budget to be playing with. If you’ve got the tractors and the men why not just buy a power Harrow and dedicated drill.
Or better still 2 power Harrow and a drill. Get the slow bit done twice as quick

 

[workin f nowt]

Used a machio and box drill on 85hp. Bit slow but 3m still now on 150 still not fast but 1 man 1 pass done. People saying 10km aren't in my stone. Front press for counter weight keep on top better especially this year

 

[Badshot]

You'll run it no worries, but steadily.
It will be lift capacity and front counterbalance that will be the issue.
As said prior, dual wheels and front press arrangement would make it possible.

 

[bravheart]

Is it quite simple to split a 3 metre combi?

For good reasons I only have 85 & 95 hp tractors. So no chance with a combi. Is it ok to buy a combi & run the power harrow on one tractor & drill on the other? Thinking 12K budget for 3 metre combi, maybe an A frame to buy? Second hand of course.

Why are you looking for a combi then splitting it? If you want two parts buy then as separates. Remember if you do buy a combi and split you will need some form of depth control on the drill ie. wheels. Most combi's use the p/h for depth control. The tulip/lely above would split ok and have wheels but drill needs a hitch kit to fit on a tractor. The three point linkage on the drill is for p/h fitment only.
Find an old drill mate for fitting to the drill 85hp will manage that fine A frame not enough IMO.

 

[Phil P]

Box drill would be the way to go, we use drill 100’s of acres with a 3m leley and Fiona box combi on a 2850.

This doesn’t look a particularly heavy setup and not silly money.

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[Nearly]

I've 4m accord air drill spare.
Half meter at each side folds for the road.
It would leave over £11k in your budget.

 

[will_mck]

Won't get much lighter than a fiona box drill, takes almost zero hp to run. Weighs around 300kg, used to hold 300kg(although I've made an extention since so it holds half a ton). Drilled 1000's of acres this way. No point in making twice the work for yourself