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Is it worth objecting against planning permission

vulcan

Member
Location
carlisle
Hi just wondered if there is any point objecting to planning permission as house over the road was sold in the summer to a developer and now they have applied for a house in the garden which will be opposite my farm but they will have a brick stable to take down to do this but have already started to take it down before the planning notices went up so is there any point of objecting or does there planner no there going to get it hence why there on knocking the stable down would object on the drive is on a blind get out and village sewer full as it is as leaks on the road when it rains heavy.
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I didn't used to object, for the reasons above. But after 12 extra new " holiday " cottages in the hamlet, which always end up with full time tenants complete with unruly dogs, 5 years of continuous building work, and double the amount of traffic on narrow lanes, enough is enough.
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Hi, my contribution probably goes without saying, but here goes, fwiw:
Imo ...
Do make your concerns known to the Planners, keep it simple, stick to planning issues and make sure you talk to the Parish Council (or local equivalent) as well about the developer starting changes before any permission granted.
The PC might be crocky and toothless in oh so many ways, but it can go in to notify an infringement and be a buffer safeguarding an individual from potential spite or nastiness from the developer.

Not all incoming developers are yobs - sometimes the homegrown sort are thoroughly nasty - so be prepared to give benefit of the doubt and give the developer the opportunity to play nicely. If they don't, you might be surprised by who's on your side.

As for anyone advising keeping schtum because you don't know about your plans in the future ... Ye gods, we fought wars to uphold our freedom of speech. Being doormats to swaggery bullying developers is simply slimy and pathetic.
 
It probably won't bother most farms too much but apparently if you do lodge an objection it is registered against your property and if at some point in the future you decide to sell will show up on a search so for someone who's been making a lot of objections it might come back to bite them on the ass if a potential buyer sees it and thinks I don't want to live in a place like this.
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
Hi just wondered if there is any point objecting to planning permission as house over the road was sold in the summer to a developer and now they have applied for a house in the garden which will be opposite my farm but they will have a brick stable to take down to do this but have already started to take it down before the planning notices went up so is there any point of objecting or does there planner no there going to get it hence why there on knocking the stable down would object on the drive is on a blind get out and village sewer full as it is as leaks on the road when it rains heavy.
I dont think you have any valid planning reasons to object with the above that the planners will not be looking at anyway, as said i would not say anything but attend the pc meeting and if you have to raise these points,or you could write to the planners and highlight your concerns without objecting,people have long memories
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Next door developers had planning to convert farmyard into 17 houses on the footprint. The meadow between houses and river was to stay Permanent Pasture for ever more. Debbelopers did not own that piece
Started fine first dozen houses went up , including the “affordable housing” , which sold for £475,000 each!
Then the last 5 were on the line of an old poultry building, plenty of room for five but they were very close to the other houses, literally looking into the windows.
So developer buys remaining meadow from the retired farmer and proceeds to completely destroy the PP. he then digs foundations for new houses about 12 metres beyond the old building.
Planners objected and worked stopped except for more intense destruction of PP, using a 360 and a wheeled digger, the 3 acres were totally turned over. After 12 months PP was approved on the new building line as the planning officers decided there was no Permanent pasture left to preserve!
To cap it all this is flood meadow, they have now raised the ground level by a good metre. I was hoping for a good winter flood this time as I am certain a large amount of the garden would have washed away , not having settled yet.
Just up the road a developer has got permission to build a terrace of 4 affordable home on an old pub site. It is a nice plot and only got permission on this basis as it is in a very rural outlook. So what has he done. Their are 2 freestanding executive homes on the site which cannot be sold as they have no planning, thankfully here the planners appear to be digging heels in.
Objecting may have little effect , but getting a letter in expressing concern about a house so close to a farmyard is unwise due to noise dust and smell, will be a very wise idea.
 

slackjawedyokel

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Northumberland
They probably shouldn’t be taking down the stable til they’ve got planning permission. They are probably doing that now because otherwise they may be required to have an environmental survey done (eg for bats, owls etc). These are expensive, take lots of time (it couldn’t be done at this time of year) and may lead to very expensive mitigation if anything is found, and what old brick stable isn’t going to have a bat or two?
 

Still Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South Wales UK
Get your planning if any same time otherwise new lot move in object to everything.
If do it now they can't say much.
Sewerage is public health Council -Envoironment Agency and Water Utility so letters,photos to them will get their act in order !
 

lim x

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Nottinghamshire
Do you have livestock buildings and are they within the 400m rule? Or maybe you could be planning to in the future and this application could affect its decision. I often wonder if the rule stands in reverse for someone building new property within that distance.

I would just mention your concerns to the planning officer for this case, without objection. I did that when a development company applied and the plans included removing my hedgeline removed, the development was turned down.

Maybe they have already had the bat survey done prior to applying for PP. We had a wildlife survey on a paddock at the correct time and submitted it with the application.
 
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Mac10

Member
Location
SE
Same quandry here, whether to object or not too. Mine would involve late night, loud events restarting approx 25m from the front door of a residential PD project, as wondering how much grief would come my way afterwards. Put up with enough crap when it was running before.
 
Hi just wondered if there is any point objecting to planning permission as house over the road was sold in the summer to a developer and now they have applied for a house in the garden which will be opposite my farm but they will have a brick stable to take down to do this but have already started to take it down before the planning notices went up so is there any point of objecting or does there planner no there going to get it hence why there on knocking the stable down would object on the drive is on a blind get out and village sewer full as it is as leaks on the road when it rains heavy.

It's not really clear what your objection is other than your village sewer already overflows. Not sure what difference one more house would make?
 

vulcan

Member
Location
carlisle
Thanks for all the Replys the more I think about it think I would not have any planning reasons for objecting only the sewerage and the visibility of there drive so be easier just to mention these.and as said one day I might build houses back on my side of the road as the bit of land opposite is where I store my slurry tanker and sometimes a heap of wrapped round bales guess I will still be able to do this here? Also my dairy cows will walk up the road past this new house when it gets built is there any rules to say they need gates on the drive to stop the cows entering?
 

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