Lazy Sod
Member
- Location
- Warminster Wiltshire
Thankfully, I never had to be involved in Red Tractor.
Does not Red Tractor amount to a restraint of trade?
Does not Red Tractor amount to a restraint of trade?
Is Red Tractor Legal?
- Thread starter Lazy Sod
- Start date
Red Tractor is definitely a serious restraint of trade as I have already stated on TFF.
- Location
- North Somerset.
If a protection racket is illegal then yes.
- Location
- West Suffolk
Its
How have you managed to avoid it?!
Yes it is , it adds nothing just takes away,it controls the market at least unethically if not illegally.
betweenthelines
Member
- Location
- southwest
If you have to have RT accreditation to sell a product (such as milk or grain) that sounds to me like a restraint of trade as it makes it compulsory
You don't have to be FABBL to sell livestock.
You don't have to be FABBL to sell livestock.
Lazy Sod
Member
- Location
- Warminster Wiltshire
From 1984, I sold all my grain through the local co-op store. About 2000, Crop assurance was required and I used ACCS. My last all arable harvest was in 2005. After that the farm went down to grass, with a litle spring barley and stubble turnips. Thereafter, I sold all my output to my neighbour as standing crops, for mowing, combining and grazing with his sheep. He didn't need it assured. I was able to concentrate on my storage enterprise until I retired completely in 2017 and relinquished my tenancy.
The arangement worked well and my neighbour was granted an FBT on my farm.
Lazy Sod
Member
- Location
- Warminster Wiltshire
What it needs is for someone or an organisation to bring a legal challenge, maybe a class action against it. The NFU wouldn't sue themselves obviously, so how about the CLA? The majority of their members are probably victims of red tractor, one way or another.
- Location
- East Sussex
What is the CLA’s position on red tractor?
I should know really as I am a member!
SilliamWhale
Member
I don't think its legal..
Abuse of a dominant position.
Abuse of a dominant position.
Nearly
Member
- Location
- North of York
- Location
- Somerset UK
It's a legal protection racket that would be the envy of the mob as there is no chance that the red crapter dons will do time.
- Location
- West coast of Scotland
I think you’ll have a hard time proving RT is illegal. I think of it in the same way as a gas fitter has to be 'gas safe' registered. Legally they don't but in practice they do.
SilliamWhale
Member
Some people choose to pay for that service.
Well I do via RT!
SilliamWhale
Member
I'm not so sure
- Location
- North Somerset.
How much is it likely to cost per member of BFU to launch such an action?
Leigh Day appear to like this kind of work and in the light of todays release of the Red Tractor review where surprise surprise, everything is rickety boo, even more important to progress.
Tom8400
Member
- Location
- oxfordshire
I can't see how it can be legal. I told the accessor that a couple of times, they don't like it and don't have a answer for it either certainly gets them panicked.
Restraint of selling of produce it certainly is now, in the early days it wasn't so much as we could still sell without it and guess what we got exactly the same price as the fools who jumped in at the start. More recently it could only go to the docks again the same price. However in the end that got to be a little tricky as they would reject it if they didn't have a good night the day before or some other excuse. Therefore it has certainly blocked a lot of market places for people to sell produce into.
Secondly there is only (two?) firms you can use for your red tractor, ok there are slightly more than two but if you look into it they are now owned by the two therefore there are two. I thought that would then come under the good old to big a monopoly on the market which is also illegal. Sainsbury couldn't buy safeway for that reason so how can the audit firms be aloud to do it?
Restraint of selling of produce it certainly is now, in the early days it wasn't so much as we could still sell without it and guess what we got exactly the same price as the fools who jumped in at the start. More recently it could only go to the docks again the same price. However in the end that got to be a little tricky as they would reject it if they didn't have a good night the day before or some other excuse. Therefore it has certainly blocked a lot of market places for people to sell produce into.
Secondly there is only (two?) firms you can use for your red tractor, ok there are slightly more than two but if you look into it they are now owned by the two therefore there are two. I thought that would then come under the good old to big a monopoly on the market which is also illegal. Sainsbury couldn't buy safeway for that reason so how can the audit firms be aloud to do it?
Because governments want cheap food and the less supermarkets the more likely prices will rise, also the press and public would point out that fact. Farmers are tiny in numbers, have no political clout and the little bit we do have owns RT and the press don't give a sh!t about RT and how much crap it is.
SilliamWhale
Member
Its expensive.
The Competition and Marketing Authority ought to be able to make a statement on it