Is the EU...

[Henarar]

Big EU supporter https://nyebevannews.co.uk/swinson-...ny-was-given-3-5m-euro-by-the-european-union/

 

[Exfarmer]

They are still hoping too rekindle their One world government aims which will not be possible without the UKs 39 billion yearly assist. They clearly are not benevolent. As for vicious gang, well we wont find that out if weve left. And if we do escape their clutches they will collapse as there are only 3 major contributors to the EU money pot, Germany, France and UK. The EU and euro cannot survive if one of these leaves the union which is why they are desperate for us too be kept in! Boris needs to engineer an immediate election by whatever means necessary.

Actually it was a certain Maggie That her who was the arch proponent of EU expansion.
the old group wanted to stay in their exclusive club but Mrs T drove through an expansionist policy which is still there today

 

[bluegreen]

Actually it was a certain Maggie That her who was the arch proponent of EU expansion.
the old group wanted to stay in their exclusive club but Mrs T drove through an expansionist policy which is still there today
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Mrs Thatcher may have championed expansion but under no circumstances would she have relinquished UK sovereignty and power over to Juncker, Barnier and Verhofftwat. I suspect she is spinning in her grave right now!

 

[arcobob]

Actually it was a certain Maggie That her who was the arch proponent of EU expansion.
the old group wanted to stay in their exclusive club but Mrs T drove through an expansionist policy which is still there today

I think her views changed towards the end of her reign when she realised where this expansion was coming from and the scale of it, hence her opposition to Maastricht and the constitutional change which we suffered without any say in the matter.

 

[MiJ]

Big EU supporter https://nyebevannews.co.uk/swinson-...ny-was-given-3-5m-euro-by-the-european-union/

and

Private Site

cyberboris.wordpress.com

 

[Henarar]

SHOCK EU 2019 REPORT: ‘UK benefits least from Single Market’

UK comes bottom in EU’s list for benefiting from the Single Market

facts4eu.org

 

[arcobob]

SHOCK EU 2019 REPORT: ‘UK benefits least from Single Market’

UK comes bottom in EU’s list for benefiting from the Single Market

facts4eu.org

This puts things into perspective, much as I suspected, bu t I am surprised at the financial services being so badly placed. At least financial services do not travel through the port of Dover.

 

[rob1]

fake news I tell you fake news,

 

[Mek]

I expect a pro remain group could come up with a totally different result ?

 

[arcobob]

I have seen the figure of 8% GDP being from exports to the EU before and it is accounted for because a large proportion of GDP is from domestic services ,not exports. I don`t think the figures are wrong but they illustrate how different our economy is from many others.

 

[Exfarmer]

8% of our GDP is UK exports to the EU
20% of our GDP is UK services exported to the EU

 

[bobk]

8% of our GDP is UK exports to the EU
20% of our GDP is UK services exported to the EU

Deal or no deal , financial services have covered their bases , so we're arguing over 8% ......

 

[arcobob]

8% of our GDP is UK exports to the EU
20% of our GDP is UK services exported to the EU

Is that 20% of 8% ? If so that is dodgy statistics when employing percentages of percentages.

 

[caveman]

Is that 20% of 8% ? If so that is dodgy statistics when employing percentages of percentages.

Exactly.
Like when losses of X% loss of economy if a no deal Brexit.
What they mean is X% loss of expected growth of X%.

Basically all X% of a load of cobblers.

 

[Highland Mule]

Is that 20% of 8% ? If so that is dodgy statistics when employing percentages of percentages.

No, it's not. Read what has been written - there's no ambiguity there.

20% is services to the EU.
8% is exports to the EU.
thus 28% of our GDP is exports and services to the EU.

 

[rob1]

No, it's not. Read what has been written - there's no ambiguity there.

20% is services to the EU.
8% is exports to the EU.
thus 28% of our GDP is exports and services to the EU.

Sorry but youre wrong there, UK gdp is 3 .02 trillion exports of goods and services to the eu was 289 billion

Statistics on UK-EU trade - House of Commons Library

This note provides some basic statistics on the UK's trade with the EU.

researchbriefings.parliament.uk

GDP Ranked by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Highland Mule]

Sorry but youre wrong there, UK gdp is 3 .02 trillion exports of goods and services to the eu was 289 billion

Statistics on UK-EU trade - House of Commons Library

This note provides some basic statistics on the UK's trade with the EU.

researchbriefings.parliament.uk

GDP Ranked by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

The figures that @Exfarmer had may be wrong - I couldn't comment. I was merely commenting on what he'd written and its lack of ambiguity.

 

[rob1]

The figures that @Exfarmer had may be wrong - I couldn't comment. I was merely commenting on what he'd written and its lack of ambiguity.

Fair enouugh but the 8% of gdp as exports of goods and services has been used since before the vote, not seen one person suggest we would lose all that even in the hardest of no deals, yet in the 70's we lost more than 4% in that recesssion .

 

[Jackov Altraids]

a Benevolent Club, or a Vicious Gang?

I think it has been a benevolent club.

The trouble is that success has been relatively easy thus far. Economic growth came from creating the free market and then from expansion of the EU. Cheap labour helped stagnant economies while investment in the new countries created bigger markets.
I can't help but believe the graph of economic success will be a bell curve. The source of continuous growth is ebbing away as Eastern Europeans are becoming less of a source of cheap labour and there are no countries likely to join in the immediate future.
I fear if things do begin to deteriorate, it could happen quite quickly and we will soon see if they take on the attitude of a vicious gang trying to hold on or give all nations the freedom to tackle issues independently. They have already shown a willingness to throw Greece to the dogs in order to protect their 'project'.

 

[Exfarmer]

8% of our GDP is UK exports to the EU
20% of our GDP is UK services exported to the EU

sorry I think these figures are wrong as others have suggested
Lies
Damn lies
and statistics

however are people aware of how GDP is made up
this is by adding every transaction together.
So if it was your farm
you would add, all purchases, all sales all other spending of a private nature, the wages of your staff and their spending
so everything is counted at least twice, if not more.