Is This Bad Husbandry?

[Estate fencing.]

I can relate from experience that the entire flock of ewes surround and protect the flystruck lambs. How would I know that, as I am no sheep farmer?

Do they?

 

[David1968]

I will stick up for the OP, he/she has bought a property with some land. Once complete they have been to have a proper look around as they are entitled to do so. they mention it was a grazing licence which would have been conveyed to them through solicitors and vendors during the purchase procedure and I expect only ever mention land not in a building however small or They have now found in a building a sheep in a crate with various sheep handling facilities, and I would naturally expect them to be curious why they was in the building etc. Also are the sheep handling facilities now their property???? The property was purchased with whatever the owner leaves behind generally usually that is rubbish but if there is some useful equipment take that as a bonus. Reading between the lines the tenant/grazing licence has a herdsman which indicates cattle but has the tenant/grazer sublet for sheep tack over winter or a small flock from elsewhere??? All very complicated which should have been sorted before sale or is the owner of sheep pushing their luck we do not know however the OP was respectful of contract law indicating the terms he/she bought the property as described by via vendors.

He's only had possession for 24 hours. There's no indication what the arrangement was with the previous owner regarding the buildings. It may even just have been a verbal one.

If he wants the stuff out of the buildings he needs to get in touch with the guy.
But he seems afraid to do that, for some reason.

 

[David1968]

I can relate from experience that the entire flock of ewes surround and protect the flystruck lambs. How would I know that, as I am no sheep farmer?

No. A badly fly-struck sheep will crawl away and hide somewhere. The rest of the flock, aside from it's mother maybe, won't give a sh!t.

 

[010101]

He's only had possession for 24 hours. There's no indication what the arrangement was with the previous owner regarding the buildings. It may even just have been a verbal one.

If he wants the stuff out of the buildings he needs to get in touch with the guy.
But he seems afraid to do that, for some reason.

I am not afraid of the tenant. I have explained already why it is not worth phoning the tenant, who I have known for 20 years.

 

[David.]

Do they?

That's a new one on me.
Must be thinking of Cape Buffalo protecting their calves from Tigers, shurely?

 

[Estate fencing.]

That's a new one on me.
Must be thinking Cape Buffalo protecting their calves from Tigers, shurely?

In my limited experience a lamb with strike go and hind in a hedge well away from the rest of the flock.

 

[David1968]

I am not afraid of the tenant. I have explained already why it is not worth phoning the tenant, who I have known for 20 years.

If you want him out of the buildings, you're going to have to man-up at some point.

Or are you just hoping he'll read this and take the hint?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No

 

[010101]

If you want him out of the buildings, you're going to have to man-up at some point.

Or are you just hoping he'll read this and take the hint?

The buildings are derelict, and I don't want to develop them.
I would very much like a good tenant on the land.
It will be handy to borrow his flock to clean the thatch from my meadows.

 

[mobileweld]

I can relate from experience that the entire flock of ewes surround and protect the flystruck lambs. How would I know that, as I am no sheep farmer?

 

[wr.]

I would think it unusual for there to be a water bucket there of that size with no water in it as sheep drink very small amounts of water

You'd be surprised how much water a freshly lambed ewe will drink. It's a job in itself topping up the water buckets in the lambing pens.

 

[Huno]

I am not afraid of the tenant. I have explained already why it is not worth phoning the tenant, who I have known for 20 years.

I am sure a Landlord should not enter a Tenants property without seeking their written or oral permission? Certainly posting photographs of what business they are carrying out in their rented property on a public forum is also not acceptable but what would I know?

 

[010101]

I am sure a Landlord should not enter a Tenants property without seeking their written or oral permission? Certainly posting photographs of what business they are carrying out in their rented property on a public forum is also not acceptable but what would I know?

A grazing licence means the tenant has the right to graze the sward.
The building is not part of that.
How has the tenant been harmed?

 

[JP1]

A grazing licence means the tenant has the right to graze the sward.
The building is not part of that.
How has the tenant been harmed?

It's a public forum

You have some rights as a landlord. The tenant may have rights and she / he may or may not have permission to sublet

However even you must think it's pretty weird posting on a virtual SM forum rather than just dealing with anything face to face or over the 'phone ?

 

[neilo]

That's a new one on me.
Must be thinking of Cape Buffalo protecting their calves from Tigers, shurely?

To be fair, the OP hasn’t stated a location. Tigers may well be a threat wherever this place is.

They’d make short work of a ewe held in an adopter, so perhaps explains the OP’s concern?

 

[010101]

It's a public forum

You have some rights as a landlord. The tenant may have rights and she / he may or may not have permission to sublet

However even you must think it's pretty weird posting on a virtual SM forum rather than just dealing with anything face to face or over the 'phone ?

Yes, but I have been dealing with this tenant for twenty years. There would have been no point in phoning him. I want to meet his shepherd.
The licence does not permit sub letting.

 

[Dry Rot]

A grazing licence means the tenant has the right to graze the sward.
The building is not part of that.
How has the tenant been harmed?

The tenant surely has the right to do what enables him to graze the sward "without let or hindrance" from the land owner. That would include managing the flock which includes lambing. I imagine it would ultimately be for a court to decide whether the use of derelict buildings would be included in that. I assume there is nothing specific in the agreement. "That which is attached to the land is part of the land". Would it be illegal for a grazing tenant to use walls and hedges to shelter his stock? Or derelict buildings?

 

[pellow]

You'd be surprised how much water a freshly lambed ewe will drink. It's a job in itself topping up the water buckets in the lambing pens.

Yeah fair enough, it looks a big bucket though

 

[Estate fencing.]

Yes, but I have been dealing with this tenant for twenty years. There would have been no point in phoning him. I want to meet his shepherd.
The licence does not permit sub letting.

We it can’t be that hard to catch the shepherd, he must have been there fairly recently before you because that hasn’t been in there long because isn’t shitty on her back legs.

 

[010101]

We it can’t be that hard to catch the shepherd, he must have been there fairly recently before you because that hasn’t been in there long because isn’t shitty on her back legs.

There are lots of trees and the building is driving distance away from my house on the other side of the tree cover. In due course I will introduce myself, probably when I see him in one of the fields.