Is This Bad Husbandry?

010101

Member
Arable Farmer
The ewe is out of the stocks but still in the pen. She and the lamb seem happy.
No other sheep on site or in the fields, that I could see.
Nobody there.
 

mobileweld

Member
Arable Farmer
As an ice breaker I suggest you go wait in the barn and when somebody does arrive you approach them like this and ask if you can have a chat about things

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If I bought a place with a grazing licence I would expect one tenant and not to find livestock in the sheds. Therefore I would enter the sheds whenever I wanted. The tenant is not paying for them.
Have I missed the conformation where its just a grazing licence not a full tenancy he's mentioned both?
Why on either agreement would you expect no livestock in the shed because he's not paying for them? apologies but has this been comirfed as also not in the agreement?
 

Flatland guy

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
Have I missed the conformation where its just a grazing licence not a full tenancy he's mentioned both?
Why on either agreement would you expect no livestock in the shed because he's not paying for them? apologies but has this been comirfed as also not in the agreement?
As far as I am concerned the Op has stated the first landlord who arranged the lease was the Secretary of State, therefore it will be a full and detailed document possibly with some strange stipulations too. I think the previous owner may have let certain aspects of the lease lapse but prior to purchase the Op asked numerous questions to ascertain what the signed lease was and for copies etc.
However the Op and the leasee do not see eye to eye prior to the Op's new purchase and the Op is fairly certain the leasee is subletting which goes against the lease agreement. I think the Op would be happy letting to the sheep owner direct but if things keep drastically altering that will not be happening anyway.
 

Punch

Member
Location
Warwickshire
As far as I am concerned the Op has stated the first landlord who arranged the lease was the Secretary of State, therefore it will be a full and detailed document possibly with some strange stipulations too. I think the previous owner may have let certain aspects of the lease lapse but prior to purchase the Op asked numerous questions to ascertain what the signed lease was and for copies etc.
However the Op and the leasee do not see eye to eye prior to the Op's new purchase and the Op is fairly certain the leasee is subletting which goes against the lease agreement. I think the Op would be happy letting to the sheep owner direct but if things keep drastically altering that will not be happening anyway.
20 pages and succinctly put without anybody being insulted :)
 
As far as I am concerned the Op has stated the first landlord who arranged the lease was the Secretary of State, therefore it will be a full and detailed document possibly with some strange stipulations too. I think the previous owner may have let certain aspects of the lease lapse but prior to purchase the Op asked numerous questions to ascertain what the signed lease was and for copies etc.
However the Op and the leasee do not see eye to eye prior to the Op's new purchase and the Op is fairly certain the leasee is subletting which goes against the lease agreement. I think the Op would be happy letting to the sheep owner direct but if things keep drastically altering that will not be happening anyway.
Full and detailed agreement it maybe but has he confirmed whether it's a tenancy excluding the buildings ? And is it in the agreement he can inspect the property without giving notice ? So far he's choosing to not answer these.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
The ewe is out of the stocks but still in the pen. She and the lamb seem happy.
No other sheep on site or in the fields, that I could see.
Nobody there.

Good news.👍

The tenant’s ’bad husbandry’ has been effective, resulting in a lamb fostered on to a ewe to be reared naturally. Good (or lucky) shepherding in that case, which I’m sure you will relay before you put in your claim for bad husbandry in order to end his tenancy.

Why would you expect there to be anybody there? I don’t supervise my sheep’s every waking hour either.
 

Blue.

Member
Livestock Farmer
Good news.👍

The tenant’s ’bad husbandry’ has been effective, resulting in a lamb fostered on to a ewe to be reared naturally. Good (or lucky) shepherding in that case, which I’m sure you will relay before you put in your claim for bad husbandry in order to end his tenancy.

Why would you expect there to be anybody there? I don’t supervise my sheep’s every waking hour either.
Must have been the miracle water administered by the new landlord that did the trick.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Good news.👍

The tenant’s ’bad husbandry’ has been effective, resulting in a lamb fostered on to a ewe to be reared naturally. Good (or lucky) shepherding in that case, which I’m sure you will relay before you put in your claim for bad husbandry in order to end his tenancy.

Why would you expect there to be anybody there? I don’t supervise my sheep’s every waking hour either.
Did he say it was bad husbandry or just ask a question ?
 

010101

Member
Arable Farmer
Full and detailed agreement it maybe but has he confirmed whether it's a tenancy excluding the buildings ? And is it in the agreement he can inspect the property without giving notice ? So far he's choosing to not answer these.
There LL has an express right of way over the entire site at all times for any purpose.

The delapidated buildings are within the title plan and they are clearly marked grazing only.
 

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