Nope.
I got the impression, nothing more, that he was aware that SFI is not universally welcomed by Farmers.
As Georgie boy was told by @holwellcourtfarm ..
Janet Hughes DEFRA Missing in action?
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I got the impression, nothing more, that he was aware that SFI is not universally welcomed by Farmers.
As Georgie boy was told by @holwellcourtfarm ..
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- Derbyshire
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- Essex
They need to concentrate on the word incentive.
Timbo
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- Gods County
I do believe they don't want everyone to take up the SFI - they're desperate to substantially reduce admin cost, labour and pay out figures. Design something unattractive - not many takers = lesser costs
Sad but true from my conversation with their staff at events...
Rather sad that I missed JH speaking and she was not on the Stand when I passed by this week at groundswell.
I was asked by a pleasant chap on the Stand if I was a Farmer?
Yes, I replied.
Are you aware and familiar with SFI and the Options available?
Yes, I replied
Will you be signing up?
No, I replied.
Oh!! Why not, do you have any experience of CS or similar schemes...?
Yes, I replied. Since 1995.... I do not consider SFI to be fit for purpose and will not be signing up unless it is altered substantially.
Oh! What would you want to see?
Better funding and simple options, I replied. I also explained my distrust of CS and NE behaviour, which he seemed aware of, and we parted on good terms..
I have shortened the actual conversation, but this gives a fair summation of it....
Are these people not following Janet's instruction to her staff to read the SFI relevant threads on here ?
And Farming.
Don't know...never been inclined to look at their blog.
(what's a blog?)
- Location
- North Somerset.
The ones I have watched are pure SFI propaganda as one might expect The farms and their systems they feature appear not to have to turn a profit to survive and of course SFI being piloted is absolutely wonderful.
Who knows....
Like a certain large estate that was constantly blowing it's own trumpet about it's "re-wilding"... ?
I gather it has been rowing back recently?
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Not sure Delilah why they would want to. Most pages there is a post or more that is somewhat (totally) derogatory about DEFRA, its staff, its attitude or a combination of the three. I suspect that if any DEFRA staff other than such a senior position as Janet Hughes read those posts and were upset their Union (Unite) would say do not read such upsetting tosh. And that young man is possibly nearer the truth than it sounds!
Once seen, never repeated!
I responded once, and never heard or saw anything in response. In fact, I do not think it was put on the comments list.
Yet that "magic" 70% keeps on reappearing. Pretty sure I heard it last week too.
I have never bought the conspiracy theory that it is designed to fail, and I don't buy it now.
Go back to November and look at the SFI standards as they then were. Everyone, quite rightly, condemned them as unworkable. If Defra wanted ELMS to fail, they would have left those standards exactly as they were and ridden out the criticism. They didn't, rather they made sweeping changes in an attempt to get farmer buy-in. Likewise the abandonment of Landscape Recovery. They want ELMS to work, they just haven't got it right yet, which is why they need to show some balls and postpone the launch. It is far closer to what it needs to be than it was a matter of months ago, no reason why they can't get there.
They have left most of the standards exactly the same in the last 12 months!! Who is brain washing you??
No they haven't. The arable soil standard is fundamentally different. The arable land standard has disappeared.
They are still shite, but they are a different sort of shite.
Ok so if it is still shite.. nothing has changed..end off
It is significant for the reason I gave. If they wanted it to fail they wouldn't keep flailing about changing it. We need to keep helping them, until they get it right.