JCB hydrogen engines.

MX7

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I see JCB are well ahead in research and development of hydrogen engines. Surely hydrogen power must be the way forward compared to electric power for many engines
Apologies for the above if hydrogen engines have already been discussed at great length elsewhere on TFF.
 

john432

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Carmarthenshire
I thought that hydrogen is very energy expensive to split out of water. And being the smallest of all atoms?, molecule? The little buggers easily excape. Gas to Liquid fuel is here and now. Could be produced from digester methane etc.. but are we seeing a ban on internal combustion engines for construction and farming eventually?
 
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MX7

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cotswolds
I can’t see JCB investing millions of pound to develop a hydrogen engine , if it isn’t going to comply with future regulations .
 

nick...

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south norfolk
I can’t see JCB investing millions of pound to develop a hydrogen engine , if it isn’t going to comply with future regulations .
It’s happening.was discussing it in local main dealer this morning With their staff.currently being tested in a 21 ton 360
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Phil P

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There was a program on radio 4 about it the other week. There’s a big government funded trial going on somewhere up on one of the Scottish Islands. They’re using solar and wind power to produce hydrogen which is then stored and used to heat the homes and produce more electricity when demand was higher. It was also there transported to the docks and use in generators to charge the ferry’s. Long term hydrogen will be the way forward because you can store it for when the demand is highest and no need for a massive network of cables. It can also be imported and exported much easier than electricity.
 

uztrac

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fakenham-norfolk
I can’t see JCB investing millions of pound to develop a hydrogen engine , if it isn’t going to comply with future regulation
Remember that many many countries on the planet have NO intention of phasing out fossil fueled engines. The majority of JCB's business is in the developing world hence their efforts to develop this method of powering machines.
 
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idgni

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Armagh

They are already rolling it out on the buses, Jo Bamford bought Wrightbus ( London double decker's) when it went burst, has started to roll out Hydrogen buses for London now,
a Good playground to develop it to move on into Daddy's company.
 

335d

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As the EV technology improves, and drive trains and motors become more efficient, hydrogen fuel cells should become more attractive. Essentially, they replace the batteries as an electric power source. There could possibly be a bit of both hydrogen fuel cell and battery, to provide a boost if required, and also to recover the energy during braking.
But as said above, it’s an expensive process to produce the hydrogen.
 

Bill the Bass

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Cumbria
There was a program on radio 4 about it the other week. There’s a big government funded trial going on somewhere up on one of the Scottish Islands. They’re using solar and wind power to produce hydrogen which is then stored and used to heat the homes and produce more electricity when demand was higher. It was also there transported to the docks and use in generators to charge the ferry’s. Long term hydrogen will be the way forward because you can store it for when the demand is highest and no need for a massive network of cables. It can also be imported and exported much easier than electricity.
My sister in law is a chemical engineer for one of the consultancies involved in the work, it will be nearly 2 years since she told us about it. Sounds really interesting.
 
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AGCO reports sales increase of 43.5% compared to 2020 figures

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Written by Agriland Team from Agriland

The tractor manufacturer AGCO, which consists of brands such as Challenger, Fendt, GSI, Massey Ferguson and Valtra, reported its results for the second quarter ending June 30, 2021.

Net sales for the second quarter were approximately $2.9 billion, an increase of approximately 43.5% compared to the second quarter of 2020.

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Reported net income was $3.73/share for the second quarter of 2021, and adjusted...
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