john deere too dear for farmers

[Will 1594]

piece in times financial
global sales down

 

[Farma Parma]

Not had a single Deere product purchased by my business in its farming history ever strange weve managed to exsist eh.
There all overpriced & they still cant spell PLOUGH properly (Plow)
Still like the sound of a 7810 or 8300/8400 etc series on cultivation mind. i'll give them that much.

 

[DrDunc]

Indicative of most machinery prices, and indeed agricultural input costs; farm gate prices have remained static despite huge production cost inflation

Times have missed the point that food is too cheap

 

[bravheart]

Not had a single Deere product purchased by my business in its farming history ever strange weve managed to exsist eh.

I'd be surprised if that's correct remember they own lots of companies including vapormatic.

 

[balerman]

Agreed,the percentage of most people’s income that goes on food is tiny compared to say 30 years ago.
Farmers have got left far far behind in terms of income,in fact it hasn’t really changed much in those 30 years,yet look at our costs.
A new 16t silage trailer is around £30k now,in the 90s it would have been under £10k,tractors have gone up even more,albeit with much more technology on board.
We are doing well to even survive given all this.

 

[PSQ]

Not had a single Deere product purchased by my business in its farming history ever strange weve managed to exsist eh.

Same here. JD are on a (short) list of manufacturers that we actively avoid, because their pricing model values their worth to my farm at considerably more than I do. But we've managed to get along with many other colours and retain more profit than we otherwise might have done...

 

[Farma Parma]

Same here. JD are on a (short) list of manufacturers that we actively avoid, because their pricing model values their worth to my farm at considerably more than I do. But we've managed to get along with many other colours and retain more profit than we otherwise might have done...

am not knocking them or there products there is plenty about the countryside but just never had an of them personaly.

 

[Farma Parma]

I'd be surprised if that's correct remember they own lots of companies including vapormatic.

cant say ive ever seen anything with there name on too be honest neither.

 

[Yale]

Only John Deere we have is a lawn mower and they are the closest dealership. Not convinced their products are worth it especially when my cousin has a 6125r that he would happily put a match to due to electronics issues!

 

[bravheart]

cant say ive ever seen anything with there name on too be honest neither.

OK, a good many tool and ag machinery shops will have a vapormatic account some more prominently displayed than others. Anything from a fuse to a short motor for most tractor colours.
If you want the storeman to get you competitive prices for an item then you would hope that they include vapormatic for a price comparison.
However recently heard the local area rep has been applying pressure to account holders. If you sell x amount a month it now has to be x + 5% before you qualify for a discount with monthly increases. Might have always been the way but smells a bit of JD marketing.

 

[Jsmith2211]

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OK, a good many tool and ag machinery shops will have a vapormatic account some more prominently displayed than others. Anything from a fuse to a short motor for most tractor colours.
If you want the storeman to get you competitive prices for an item then you would hope that they include vapormatic for a price comparison.
However recently heard the local area rep has been applying pressure to account holders. If you sell x amount a month it now has to be x + 5% before you qualify for a discount with monthly increases. Might have always been the way but smells a bit of JD marketing.

They're going to end up losing a lot of customers if they keep going the way they are with dealerships. Its all push push push to get bigger sell more etc, just isnt going to end well.

 

[Chae1]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

 

[Jsmith2211]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

Well thats a stupid comment

 

[Universe]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

Or a Bentley, a Ferrari, ...

 

[Moors Lad]

Well thats a stupid comment

They do occur on here from time to time.....
Question is....Would a good farmer who could afford a JD be daft enough to waste all that money....?

 

[Landrover]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

Having just priced all the major brands for a new tractor, there is very little in price between them when you get them to the same spec ! We are going back to Deere after a different make, there dealer back up is far better here anyway

 

[Jsmith2211]

They do occur on here from time to time.....
Question is....Would a good farmer who could afford a JD be daft enough to waste all that money....?

Im not sure, I struggle to see where the benefit in terms of a bottom line is going to come from by owning the swish tractor. Not much difference in running costs (apart from the JD probably costing more if anything) so its really just down to people wanting fancy toys... Having said that I am vain and so would quite like a fendt...

 

[Chae1]

Having just priced all the major brands for a new tractor, there is very little in price between them when you get them to the same spec ! We are going back to Deere after a different make, there dealer back up is far better here anyway

Completely agree.

I've been through same process and found the same.

 

[redsloe]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

Or a lotus more like.
They appreciate in value apparently.....

 

[Nearly]

If you can't afford a John Deere your not a very good farmer.

I know good farmers who can afford one but choose not to.

Is that a saying about a true Scottish gentleman? They can play the bagpipes but choose not to.